Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
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Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
1-Greg Russell, a/k/a/ Gman, is hereby awarded the Order of the Phoenix, and is thus declared a Knight of the Living Dead.
(FYI
http://www.shireroth.org/shirewiki/Order_of_the_Phoenix )
2-Maksym Hadjimehmetov is hereby awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional work in securing peace in Benacia.
3- Oroigawa Koreyasu is awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional devotion to the Imperial Republic of Shireroth.
4- Mike Fors is awarded the Order of the Dragon for work on Shirithian infrastructure and legal system.
The numerics herein do not indicate preferment or rank.
I hereby waive any restrictions of time for the express purpose of these awards.
(FYI
http://www.shireroth.org/shirewiki/Order_of_the_Phoenix )
2-Maksym Hadjimehmetov is hereby awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional work in securing peace in Benacia.
3- Oroigawa Koreyasu is awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional devotion to the Imperial Republic of Shireroth.
4- Mike Fors is awarded the Order of the Dragon for work on Shirithian infrastructure and legal system.
The numerics herein do not indicate preferment or rank.
I hereby waive any restrictions of time for the express purpose of these awards.
Loki III, Kaiser of Shireroth
"Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est."
The Awaited One, Bearer of the Sword
Traditional King of the Mala'anje
Prince of Hvalafell
Lord Protector of Yardistan
Vryheer of Maraguo
"Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est."
The Awaited One, Bearer of the Sword
Traditional King of the Mala'anje
Prince of Hvalafell
Lord Protector of Yardistan
Vryheer of Maraguo
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Then what was the point of putting that restriction on time?
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
What Erik said. If you're going to waive the time limit every time you award honors, why not just remove it altogether, or just say that it only applies to honors given by the Landsraad? But thanks anyway, your Niftiness. 
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
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Woah! I look at this before I go to bed and it's only Greg, then I wake up and BAM! There's my name!
Thank you!
(Exceptional devotion? me?)
Thank you!
(Exceptional devotion? me?)
Oroigawa Koreyasu
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Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
The restrictions, Your Niftiness. 
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Are in the LawBook and thus technically inferior to all Imperial Decrees.Jonas wrote:The restrictions, Your Niftiness.
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
I know, Mike. But this can bring confusion, in the future.Mike Fors wrote:Are in the LawBook and thus technically inferior to all Imperial Decrees.Jonas wrote:The restrictions, Your Niftiness.
Kaiser Mahamantot XI: I want to award everyone!
Peasant: But the restrictions, Your Niftiness...
Kaiser: It happened before and it will happen again!
Peasant: But why do we have those restrictions, Your Niftiness?
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
This has already brought confusion.
It's up to us in the Landsraad to adopt the LawBook regulations to reality, or for the Kaiser to do the same.
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
I'm an idiot.
The regulations are of course in the DecreeBook, so it is only up to the Kaiser to adopt them to reality. We can only complain. 
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And they are binding on him then... He'd have to change the Decreebook first.
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Implied repeal?
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
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:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
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It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
What is this "implied repeal"? Regardless of the laws in the Decreebook, the Kaiser's word is still law until overturned by the Judex and the Landsraad.
Oroigawa Koreyasu
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Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
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Count of McCallavre, Straylight
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Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Implied repeal means that when a lawmaking institution passes a law that is in conflict with another law, the original law is effectively repealed. There is no specific rule requiring new Imperial Decrees to conform with the DecreeBook, but it would be easier if they did.Oroigawa Koreyasu wrote:What is this "implied repeal"? Regardless of the laws in the Decreebook, the Kaiser's word is still law until overturned by the Judex and the Landsraad.
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
By traditional view, the Kaiser is bound by past decrees, until those decrees are repealed... ie. the Decreebook binds the Kaiser, until he edits the Decreebook.
Implied Repeal does not count here. Nor anywhere, as it's not a term under Shireroth law.
Implied Repeal does not count here. Nor anywhere, as it's not a term under Shireroth law.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
There are alot of things that are not terms under Shirerithian law that we still conform to. Tradition, for one. According to the Charter the Kaiser may "make any decree regarding the operation, behavior, functions and/or policy of Shireroth, as well as any actions he deems fit, as long as they do not violate this Charter." The DecreeBook further states that the Kaiser "may use Imperial Decrees in any manner he wishes." So, we can complain, but we only have tradition on our side.
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
So, Mr. Arbiter, please write me a Decree that fixes it!
Loki III, Kaiser of Shireroth
"Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est."
The Awaited One, Bearer of the Sword
Traditional King of the Mala'anje
Prince of Hvalafell
Lord Protector of Yardistan
Vryheer of Maraguo
"Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est."
The Awaited One, Bearer of the Sword
Traditional King of the Mala'anje
Prince of Hvalafell
Lord Protector of Yardistan
Vryheer of Maraguo
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
First of all, your Niftiness, that is not my job.
Second, what is it that you want fixed?
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
That which we are complaining about. Perhaps your legal firm could write a decree that works. and get paid.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Yes, that would be an option. That is my job there after all.
If his Niftiness is interested, he could PM me what he wants the decree to do and I'll draft it. In my capacity as a lawyer of course. 
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Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Thanks. That means alot to me.
*looks around, vanishes*
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What follows has lead me to this place where I belong, with all erased.
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Glad to help!
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