New military organization
- Kaiser Mors V
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New military organization
So I'm dismantling and decentralizing the military. I've decided. I'll decide MoMA's fate later..
but the new organization follows the subdivisions.
All nobles are now military officers, with command of their subordinate nobles.
A Duke commands his Barons, who in turn command their counts.
And the Kaiser commands the Dukes.
Dukes are essentially High ranking generals.
Barons are lesser ranking Generals
Counts of Colonels over their County Militias.
If a Duke is a Baron also he'll have direct control over the counties in his barony, as well as the other barons. Though he can give a field promotion to a count in his barony to operate it for him.
I want ideas on how to work this system out, since every Duke is also a count. In recwars I would assume everyone just commands the militia for their county, but if a duke or baron has the authority to give orders to other barons/counts to do specific missions.
Also, I see this as a way to help select barons. Pick barons for both this political/social aspects and their military skill.
but the new organization follows the subdivisions.
All nobles are now military officers, with command of their subordinate nobles.
A Duke commands his Barons, who in turn command their counts.
And the Kaiser commands the Dukes.
Dukes are essentially High ranking generals.
Barons are lesser ranking Generals
Counts of Colonels over their County Militias.
If a Duke is a Baron also he'll have direct control over the counties in his barony, as well as the other barons. Though he can give a field promotion to a count in his barony to operate it for him.
I want ideas on how to work this system out, since every Duke is also a count. In recwars I would assume everyone just commands the militia for their county, but if a duke or baron has the authority to give orders to other barons/counts to do specific missions.
Also, I see this as a way to help select barons. Pick barons for both this political/social aspects and their military skill.
Mortis Mercator V,
Kaiser of Shireroth
Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
- Maksym Hadjimehmetov
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Re: New military organization
That seems an easy solution. I suppose it gives counts more of a sense of participation when there is a war, and clarifies the role of Baons a little more. So essentially, the Kaiser is a Field Marshal, am I right?
Surely, though, we'll still need this ministry to discuss tactics and military build-ups? Do we even have an order of battle- an entire list of our armed forces?
Surely, though, we'll still need this ministry to discuss tactics and military build-ups? Do we even have an order of battle- an entire list of our armed forces?

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Re: New military organization
order of battle... hmmm.. No... and....more no on the other question...
Right.. I should appoint a MoMA...
Right.. I should appoint a MoMA...
Mortis Mercator V,
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Duke of Brookshire
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Re: New military organization
If I wasn't already one of the chief commanders in Toketi... I might just have to let you all have the honor--nay, the privilege!--of being my parent nation in war. 
Boris Ivanovich Serov ronToketi VI
Executor of Chelkran Kesh
King of Kagan conToketi
Baron of Absentia, Yardistan
Executor of Chelkran Kesh
King of Kagan conToketi
Baron of Absentia, Yardistan
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If we had gotten to it during my reign, I probably would have made you Knight-Marshal after the Rankings War. You're experience is matched only by Bayen, I think, but he's already got the title, being King/Emperor and all... 
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Was Tokidoki the right name? I thought it wasn't...Maksym Hadjimehmetov wrote:Aahh... Tokidoki and Tokidokians confuse me...
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
Can't you see? I'm crazy!

Can't you see? I'm crazy!
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Re: New military organization
No longer. We're know as Toketi now.
Boris Ivanovich Serov ronToketi VI
Executor of Chelkran Kesh
King of Kagan conToketi
Baron of Absentia, Yardistan
Executor of Chelkran Kesh
King of Kagan conToketi
Baron of Absentia, Yardistan
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Damned newbie nations, always changing their names and confusing us old people...Prodigy Almighty wrote:No longer. We're know as Toketi now.
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Re: New military organization
* kicks Nick *
No badmouthing our friends for changing their names!
No badmouthing our friends for changing their names!
No-one should be without a parasol, Sirocco.
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Re: New military organization
I agree with the man, Jonas! Guess how I felt when they renamed the plain, simple, easy to spell 'Zatriarchate of Matbaa' to 'Ecumenical Synody of Matbaa'. Honestly. I ask you.

Re: New military organization
Happy?Maksym Hadjimehmetov wrote:I agree with the man, Jonas! Guess how I felt when they renamed the plain, simple, easy to spell 'Zatriarchate of Matbaa' to 'Ecumenical Synody of Matbaa'. Honestly. I ask you.
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
Can't you see? I'm crazy!

Can't you see? I'm crazy!
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I feel like I need a scorecard to keep track of everything nowadays.
*ponders bringing the Definitive Micronational Index back online*
*ponders bringing the Definitive Micronational Index back online*
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Nick--
I've been in micronations only 2 years and I can't begin to keep up with all the countries. I think it would be a great service to all of us if you did bring it back.
I've been in micronations only 2 years and I can't begin to keep up with all the countries. I think it would be a great service to all of us if you did bring it back.
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I think I saw someone working on a similar project, so I'm gunna wait to see if they finish that before resurrecting the hardest project I've ever done.
Not that the list is hard, but manually editing the HTML pages every few hours, THAT was a pain.
Not that the list is hard, but manually editing the HTML pages every few hours, THAT was a pain.
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Were things really changing that fast??? Amazing!! 
Re: New military organization
By His H47,
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
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Back in the day things were VERY different. Just keeping that damned thing up to date was making me go insane. But I guess I could re-design it using PHP and a database and save myself some aggravation...hypatias mom wrote:Were things really changing that fast??? Amazing!!
And Ben, different site. 10 for effort, minus several million for correctness.
Count of Norfolk
Re: New military organization
You misunderstand - I was posting an alternative which has filled the niche. Hence why I said "But go anyway". :P
By His H47,
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
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Re: New military organization
Things are going fast? Tell me about it. Remember the good old days of the NAM? Well now, only Riponia is the active member left. Alexandria, Natopia, or Matbaa have all died or gone inactive.

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Alexandria - were they ever a full member of NAM? Never saw their representatives at the two Natopian revival summits I remember attending... and there was even an Antican there. :P
By His H47,
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
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Re: New military organization
To all military commanders:
What recourse does a barony or a duchy have if attacked by the forces of His Majesty's own paratooper? This happened today at Port Nevermore while His Majesty was visiting Duke Jonas on a courtesy visit. Confirmation is found at: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... 0&start=30 Just how autonomous are our bases and forces to repell such an attack?
Carol, Baroness of Lumina's Light, and High Commander of Port Nevermore and the Baronial Militia
What recourse does a barony or a duchy have if attacked by the forces of His Majesty's own paratooper? This happened today at Port Nevermore while His Majesty was visiting Duke Jonas on a courtesy visit. Confirmation is found at: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... 0&start=30 Just how autonomous are our bases and forces to repell such an attack?
Carol, Baroness of Lumina's Light, and High Commander of Port Nevermore and the Baronial Militia
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