Politics

[Yvain Wintersong]

I do like writing stories and making pretty graphics, but is there anything more...governmental and political here? I've been here a week and I don't think I've seen anyone disagree about anything. Peace and harmony are precious things, but I'm starting to worry I've wandered out of micronationalism into the Stepford Wives movie. I know from the wiki that there have been a LOT of Kaisers, so surely something must be going on rather than Kaiser Mors continuing his benevolent rule for all time. Where is it happening and how do I get involved?

[Andreas the Wise]

As someone in no position to answer this ...
Landsraad is for Dukes only to vote in, though we peasants get to discuss laws outside. Then there's Foreign Affairs and so on. But Shireroth isn't as big on politics as some nations .... or is that just now?

[Maksym Hadjimehmetov]

Well, Shireroth hasn't been in any recwars since I joined back in 2005. Maybe we need a civil war or something.
Or we could discuss macronational issues.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Well... no, we haven't really ever been hot on creating political controversy here (despite the name of our off-topic forum). We've certainly had controversy in the past, and the surefire way to create a lot of flames in Shireroth is to advocate democratic reform, but... really, we prefer to just harmoniously cooperate to create a nifty nation and a fun place to be.

As for the matter of having a lot of Kaisers, that's simply because Kaisers rule only for a few months in Shireroth at most. It's a tradition, and it works reasonably well for the purpose of stirring things up every now and then.

[benkern]

Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.

[Nick Foghorn Leghorn]

Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.

Really now?

*Dusts off NWP posters and pins and wanders off*

[Jonas]

Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.

What a mistake... on the other hand... there's nothing so undemocratic as a party

[Ari Rahikkala]

Time for an Anti-Party Party again?

[Jonas]

Time for an Anti-Party Party again?

Excellent...

But we could call it: the PAPHNKS ( Party for Absolute Power to His Niftiness, the Kaiser of Shireroth ).

[Maksym Hadjimehmetov]

Come on... contenders for the throne is much more interesting than political party debates- we want war! anger! complex and tenuous links to the Kaiser's throne!

[Kaiser Mors V]

Not sure many are left who have much claim to the throne.. Ari and Shyriath... Carol too.. have been Kaisers.. so have some claim... that's about it at this point..

I'm not so keen on political parties.. and when they did exist.. it proved my point....

[benkern]

Don't have a problem with them myself - always good to have friends who think the same way you do.

In any case there's more to politics than claiming the throne. I hope!

[Kaiser Mors V]

Well.. there are actually a good deal of politics here, but people seem to defer a lot to who is above them.. Mostly me as Kaiser it seems...

what we need is more people veying for my favor... yeah.. that's it! Suck up to me! Make me love you... That's Feudal politics...

Also, I'm sure there are those that don't agree with some of my policies.. or those of ..well.. we don't have a lot of ministers... Which is my policy.. I'm trying to move powers into the hands of nobles....(which I'll explain in a post tonight with "The Pragmatic Duties of a Noble" and later with "The Socio-Ethical Duties of a Noble")

[Shyriath]

Ahhh, good, a little manual for nobles.

As for sucking up... you WILL recall those Kaiser-glorifying things I suggested under that thread about titles and such, right? Right, Your Most Magnificent Niftiness? </shamelesssuckingup>

[Kaiser Mors V]

Yes I recall these things...

[Kaiser Mors V]

I think I just realized what happened to the Politics.... They used to be centered around Traditional/Conservative views.. versus everyone else... Especially the Radical/Democratist movements... Now... There are no real Traditional-Conservative left, even I've gone.. almost Radical in some of my changes... mostly moderate. Plus my willingness to allow/try most anything... so.. we have no conflicts.. cause... no one is really running into opposition to their plans and ideas...

[hypatias mom]

I also think people no longer are picking fights just for the sake of picking fights with others here. People have become more civil in their discourse, and are willing to discuss rather than fight for their point of view..........

[Jonas]

I also think people no longer are picking fights just for the sake of picking fights with others here. People have become more civil in their discourse, and are willing to discuss rather than fight for their point of view..........

If that's true: why the USA delared war on Iraq? Because of the weapon arsenal?

Politicians talk because they want or more time, or there country isn't strong enough to fight. And we're becoming lazy...

[Ari Rahikkala]

Jonas, I think she's talking about Shireroth, not the entire world...

[Jonas]

Jonas, I think she's talking about Shireroth, not the entire world...

Ow yes... you can be right... I'm sorry...

[Liam conToketi]

Your Niftiness, would you like to be adopted into the Gralan royal family?

[Jacobus Loki]

(Wakes up slowly, opens one eye.)

UHHNN--

Politics bad!
Kaiser good!

(falls over)

[Kaiser Mors V]

Adopted? Huh....? Why? Que?

[Liam conToketi]

Well, I thought I might be able to appropriate myself a link to the Kaiser, being a member of the royal family myself...

[Kaiser Mors V]

unless you became my child.. or I married you.. there would be no link...

[Liam conToketi]

Hey, at the moment, the ronToketi family consists of myself, my adopted brother the King of Novatainia, my adopted cousin the King of Toketi, and my other adopted cousin the former Prince of Krerdar. Adoptions all I've got, your Niftiness...

[Kaiser Mors V]

Yes.. but the link would not be by blood, and would not filter down to you, as I'd be across on the tree...

[Liam conToketi]

A minor technicality, hardly noticeable...