Politics
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- Yvain Wintersong
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Politics
I do like writing stories and making pretty graphics, but is there anything more...governmental and political here? I've been here a week and I don't think I've seen anyone disagree about anything. Peace and harmony are precious things, but I'm starting to worry I've wandered out of micronationalism into the Stepford Wives movie. I know from the wiki that there have been a LOT of Kaisers, so surely something must be going on rather than Kaiser Mors continuing his benevolent rule for all time. Where is it happening and how do I get involved?
- Andreas the Wise
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Re: Politics
As someone in no position to answer this ...
Landsraad is for Dukes only to vote in, though we peasants get to discuss laws outside. Then there's Foreign Affairs and so on. But Shireroth isn't as big on politics as some nations .... or is that just now?
Landsraad is for Dukes only to vote in, though we peasants get to discuss laws outside. Then there's Foreign Affairs and so on. But Shireroth isn't as big on politics as some nations .... or is that just now?
The character Andreas the Wise is on indefinite leave.
However, this account still manages:
Cla'Udi - Count of Melangia
Manuel - CEO of VBNC. For all you'll ever need.
Vincent Waldgrave - Lord General of Gralus
Q - Director of SAMIN
Duke Mel'Kat - Air Pirate, Melangian, and Duke of the Flying Duchy of Glanurchy
And references may be made to Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn (a Nelagan Micron of undisclosed purpose).
However, this account still manages:
Cla'Udi - Count of Melangia
Manuel - CEO of VBNC. For all you'll ever need.
Vincent Waldgrave - Lord General of Gralus
Q - Director of SAMIN
Duke Mel'Kat - Air Pirate, Melangian, and Duke of the Flying Duchy of Glanurchy
And references may be made to Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn (a Nelagan Micron of undisclosed purpose).
- Maksym Hadjimehmetov
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Re: Politics
Well, Shireroth hasn't been in any recwars since I joined back in 2005. Maybe we need a civil war or something.
Or we could discuss macronational issues.
Or we could discuss macronational issues.

- Ari Rahikkala
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Re: Politics
Well... no, we haven't really ever been hot on creating political controversy here (despite the name of our off-topic forum). We've certainly had controversy in the past, and the surefire way to create a lot of flames in Shireroth is to advocate democratic reform, but... really, we prefer to just harmoniously cooperate to create a nifty nation and a fun place to be.
As for the matter of having a lot of Kaisers, that's simply because Kaisers rule only for a few months in Shireroth at most. It's a tradition, and it works reasonably well for the purpose of stirring things up every now and then.
As for the matter of having a lot of Kaisers, that's simply because Kaisers rule only for a few months in Shireroth at most. It's a tradition, and it works reasonably well for the purpose of stirring things up every now and then.
No-one should be without a parasol, Sirocco.
Re: Politics
Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.
By His H47,
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
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"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
- Nick Foghorn Leghorn
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Re: Politics
benkern wrote:Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.
Really now?
*Dusts off NWP posters and pins and wanders off*
Count of Norfolk
Re: Politics
What a mistake... on the other hand... there's nothing so undemocratic as a partybenkern wrote:Recently (well, relatively recently) Kaiser Meskan... II lifted the ban on political parties. Don't think it was ever reinstalled (I believe since about forever they've been banned). As such, there's the capacity for political lobbying and that within the nation - it's just never been big here.
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
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- Ari Rahikkala
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Re: Politics
Excellent...Ari Rahikkala wrote:Time for an Anti-Party Party again?
But we could call it: the PAPHNKS ( Party for Absolute Power to His Niftiness, the Kaiser of Shireroth ).
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
Can't you see? I'm crazy!

Can't you see? I'm crazy!
- Maksym Hadjimehmetov
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Re: Politics
Come on... contenders for the throne is much more interesting than political party debates- we want war! anger! complex and tenuous links to the Kaiser's throne!

- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
Not sure many are left who have much claim to the throne.. Ari and Shyriath... Carol too.. have been Kaisers.. so have some claim... that's about it at this point..
I'm not so keen on political parties.. and when they did exist.. it proved my point....
I'm not so keen on political parties.. and when they did exist.. it proved my point....
Mortis Mercator V,
Kaiser of Shireroth
Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
Re: Politics
Don't have a problem with them myself - always good to have friends who think the same way you do.
In any case there's more to politics than claiming the throne. I hope!
In any case there's more to politics than claiming the throne. I hope!
By His H47,
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
Baron Benkern of Vorpmadal, Yardistan.
"Like us or hate us, someone will still hold the torch. You might as well try to like us." - Harvey Steffke
"Tis not a leaving of a harried knave/Tis not with tail tucked in shame/Rather in glorious exhibition of benevolent might/Sun bids the world an emblazon g'night."
"But every beginning is only a continuation and the book of fate is always open in the middle."
- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
Well.. there are actually a good deal of politics here, but people seem to defer a lot to who is above them.. Mostly me as Kaiser it seems...
what we need is more people veying for my favor... yeah.. that's it! Suck up to me! Make me love you... That's Feudal politics...
Also, I'm sure there are those that don't agree with some of my policies.. or those of ..well.. we don't have a lot of ministers... Which is my policy.. I'm trying to move powers into the hands of nobles....(which I'll explain in a post tonight with "The Pragmatic Duties of a Noble" and later with "The Socio-Ethical Duties of a Noble")
what we need is more people veying for my favor... yeah.. that's it! Suck up to me! Make me love you... That's Feudal politics...
Also, I'm sure there are those that don't agree with some of my policies.. or those of ..well.. we don't have a lot of ministers... Which is my policy.. I'm trying to move powers into the hands of nobles....(which I'll explain in a post tonight with "The Pragmatic Duties of a Noble" and later with "The Socio-Ethical Duties of a Noble")
Mortis Mercator V,
Kaiser of Shireroth
Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
Re: Politics
Ahhh, good, a little manual for nobles.
As for sucking up... you WILL recall those Kaiser-glorifying things I suggested under that thread about titles and such, right? Right, Your Most Magnificent Niftiness? </shamelesssuckingup>
As for sucking up... you WILL recall those Kaiser-glorifying things I suggested under that thread about titles and such, right? Right, Your Most Magnificent Niftiness? </shamelesssuckingup>

- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
Yes I recall these things...
Mortis Mercator V,
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- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
I think I just realized what happened to the Politics.... They used to be centered around Traditional/Conservative views.. versus everyone else... Especially the Radical/Democratist movements... Now... There are no real Traditional-Conservative left, even I've gone.. almost Radical in some of my changes... mostly moderate. Plus my willingness to allow/try most anything... so.. we have no conflicts.. cause... no one is really running into opposition to their plans and ideas...
Mortis Mercator V,
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Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
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Re: Politics
I also think people no longer are picking fights just for the sake of picking fights with others here. People have become more civil in their discourse, and are willing to discuss rather than fight for their point of view..........
Re: Politics
If that's true: why the USA delared war on Iraq? Because of the weapon arsenal?hypatias mom wrote:I also think people no longer are picking fights just for the sake of picking fights with others here. People have become more civil in their discourse, and are willing to discuss rather than fight for their point of view..........
Politicians talk because they want or more time, or there country isn't strong enough to fight. And we're becoming lazy...
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
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- Ari Rahikkala
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Re: Politics
Jonas, I think she's talking about Shireroth, not the entire world...
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Re: Politics
Ow yes... you can be right... I'm sorry...Ari Rahikkala wrote:Jonas, I think she's talking about Shireroth, not the entire world...
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
Can't you see? I'm crazy!

Can't you see? I'm crazy!
- Liam conToketi
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Re: Politics
Your Niftiness, would you like to be adopted into the Gralan royal family? 

- Jacobus Loki
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Re: Politics
(Wakes up slowly, opens one eye.)
UHHNN--
Politics bad!
Kaiser good!
(falls over)
UHHNN--
Politics bad!
Kaiser good!
(falls over)
- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
Adopted? Huh....? Why? Que?
Mortis Mercator V,
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Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
- Liam conToketi
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Re: Politics
Well, I thought I might be able to appropriate myself a link to the Kaiser, being a member of the royal family myself... 
- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
unless you became my child.. or I married you.. there would be no link...
Mortis Mercator V,
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Duke of Brookshire
Count of Monty Crisco
- Liam conToketi
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Re: Politics
Hey, at the moment, the ronToketi family consists of myself, my adopted brother the King of Novatainia, my adopted cousin the King of Toketi, and my other adopted cousin the former Prince of Krerdar. Adoptions all I've got, your Niftiness... 
- Kaiser Mors V
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Re: Politics
Yes.. but the link would not be by blood, and would not filter down to you, as I'd be across on the tree...
Mortis Mercator V,
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Re: Politics
A minor technicality, hardly noticeable...
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