A question?

Major General Volkov · Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:10 am

What did the old citizen notice used to say? Wasn't something like "Our Storm is Approaching" or something? Just curious. Major General Vladimir VolkovCommanding Officer of the Krantisk VerfliienMinister of Krantisk SportsAnyone here go to Purdue?

Zirandorthel · Post by **Zirandorthel** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:36 am

There was no other sign, there were no other signs! The other signs were imaginary, they were on the moon!It said "The Storm is Coming", or "A New Storm Has Come" or other references to meterological phenomona at other times. Zirandorthel I of TreesiaThe Golden DarknessBelde of the Far Reaches.Niirus TinenetuwarLet the fates burn!

Kaiser Mors III · Post by **Kaiser Mors III** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:14 am

HEY.. Where is the mention of a Storm in the New Notice... I like having Storms mentioned.. it's Tradition..hehe Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth

Post by **Gman Russell** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:54 pm

The storm came. And went. And lead to the Stone/joseph fiasco...

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:15 pm

Vladimir: Shto vasha otchestvo?Just a thing, ever consider adding a patrynomic to your Russian name? That would be cool

Major General Volkov · Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:40 pm

? Sorry, if that's Russian the only Russian I know is: Da, Nyet, and Privyet (not sure I spelled that right). Major General Vladimir VolkovCommanding Officer of the Krantisk VerfliienMinister of Krantisk SportsAnyone here go to Purdue?

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:53 pm

I'm not sure about this, but in the official transliteration method, I think the cyrillic E (ye) is represented as just E in the roman alphabet also. So it would be da, net, privet.I think the roman Y is only used in denotion of the the cyrillic 'yu', 'ya', and on it's own as 'i kratkoe'.Then again, I could just be talking complete bollocks. As for a patronymic name, Arkadyevich sounds pretty damn cool...

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:59 pm

There are a number of different transliation methods.Privyet, Nyet, etc are perfectly acceptable as there is a difference between stressed 'e' (which sounds like ye) and unstressed (which sounds like latin 'e')Latin "Y" (sometimes "J" and "I" are used as well in some circumstances) is used in denoting stressed "ye" (as I mentioned previously), as well as yu, ya, and short "I" (as in russkii/russkiy/russkij...an example is in your login, Krasniy)Anyway, what I wrote in russian is just asking if you have a patrynomic

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:04 pm

At any rate, I made a typo. Should read "vashe otchestvo"

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:07 pm

I also meant 'transliteration' Lots of typos today and I'm too lazy to log in to edit

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:10 pm

Agh! Stressed letters, always were a pain in the arse.Bah, I'm still slowly learning. Do you think it'll work to learn a shitload of vocabulary, read a lot and pick up the grammar as I go along? That's my method, anyhow. Doesn't allow for good pronunciation, mind...

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:14 pm

Russian pronunciation is extremely difficult. It's more irregular and varied than other slavic languages. Another stressed letter to look out for is "o" which when unstressed sounds more like a. The biggest pain in the ass is discerning the hard and soft sounded consonants though.Anyway, it would probably be very difficult to learn Russian that way. The cases are something which really need to be studied when first learning.

Major General Volkov · Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:17 pm

The reasone why i was asking was because I was bored so I found some pictures threw some phrases together and made these: I think I may throw some together for any other micronations who want any. Major General Vladimir VolkovCommanding Officer of the Krantisk VerfliienMinister of Krantisk SportsAnyone here go to Purdue?Edited by: Major General Volkov at: 12/3/03 5:18 pm

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:17 pm

Oh yeah, and some common words with unusual pronunciations which you might want to know.zdravstvuy (strict latin transliteration) - the first v is silentyego (strict latin transliteration) - should be pronounced with a v like"yevo" even though g is written there.

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:19 pm

Hmm, I'm OK with the stressed 'o'. I find that most of the time the version that 'sounds right' is the one you're supposd to use *shrug*I'm alright with cases too, despite the fact there's more than 2, but I agree that soft and hard pronunciation is a pain.: -->:">

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:21 pm

The stressed and unstressed sounds were actually the hardest for me, since I tried to pronounce all of the words as though they were croatian.

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:23 pm

I figured out the zdrasvuite and yevo early on, thank god.Another wierd thing is, all the russian words with non-Russian origin like 'Hamburger', 'Hitler' etc, the H is replaced by a G in Russian. Which is it pronounced as?

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:25 pm

Believe it not, the g is pronounced Gavaii! Edit: Bad transliteration Edited by: For Her Light at: 12/3/03 5:27 pm

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:27 pm

Pfft, that's just silly....

For Her Light · Post by **For Her Light** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:28 pm

Russian doesn't have a normal H. It's more gutteral and sometimes sounds almost like a K And so we lay,We lay in the same grave,Our chemical wedding day...

Major General Volkov · Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:38 pm

Feel free to use those images, they are a gift to Shireroth, if they are used a little credit would be nice, but is not necessary. Major General Vladimir VolkovCommanding Officer of the Krantisk VerfliienMinister of Krantisk SportsAnyone here go to Purdue?

Kaiser Mors III · Post by **Kaiser Mors III** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:15 pm

COOOOOLTHanks for the Images... I wish we had something we could offer in exchange that was of equal exsistance and value... Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth

Post by **Gman Russell** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:31 pm

Definitely cool man! Thanks!speak of the devil, it's supposed to be really bad here in Charlotte tonight... not sure if that's good or bad lol

Gryphon Avocatio · Post by **Gryphon Avocatio** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:11 pm

I liek the "New storm has risen" one... -Gryphon Avocatio- Lord Governor and Duke of all Yardistan - Minister of Research and Education, Shireroth - Shirerothian Elder - SAVE THE KIWI!! - Lover of Llamas "You're intense and driven. That can lead to a lot of good things. It can also lead to high blood pressure and a closing of the arteries." -Mr. Mathews -- "I think that people who drive Hummers are clueless, and that they just have enough money to advertise it." -Peter Camejo -- "Skanky-Deutch-Ho-Bag!!" -Mike

Kaiser Mors III · Post by **Kaiser Mors III** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:54 pm

Indeed! Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth

Post by **Gman Russell** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:14 pm

So... what... are we going to have another storm just out of tradition...? or what?edit: it said enough instead of another lol Edited by: Gman Russell at: 12/4/03 4:18 pm

Kaiser Mors III · Post by **Kaiser Mors III** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:16 pm

Not sure if I've decided yet or not... Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth

Post by **Gman Russell** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:22 pm

What exactly WAS the storm? I thought it was an actuall evil storm that was going to destroy Shireroth, but I might be wrong...

Kaiser Mors III · Post by **Kaiser Mors III** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:28 pm

Well.. generally in Shireroth Tradition a storm is a symbol of change.. Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth

Post by **Gman Russell** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:30 pm

*LAUGHS*haha, now that's ironic eh? A symbol of CHANGE becoming tradition...

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