Formal Recognition with Antica

[Henzelli]

Greetings, I am Bartolomeo Henzelli, Foreign Minister for the Commonwealth of Antica. As per our new policy after a period of isolation, we are moving out and opening our channels of communication with foreign nations. I have prepared a treaty for your perusal. Anything you wish to add, subtract, or modify is welcome, but will lead to prolonged discussions if any requests are considered unreasonable.

Treat of Recognition and Mutual Sovereignty Between the Imperial Republic of Shireroth and the Commonwealth of Antica

1. The Imperial Republic of Shireroth, hereafter referred to as Shireroth, recognizes the Commonwealth of Antica as an existing, legal entity.

2. The Commonwealth of Antica, hereafter referred to as Antica, recognizes Shireroth as an existing, legal entity.

3. The territories to which Shireroth and Antica are entitled by virtue of internationally-respected, delineated and natural boundaries are mutually recognized and respected.

4. Neither Shireroth or Antica may openly participate in or contribute to an attack upon the other.

5. Regular and uninhibited communication between agents of the states of Shireroth and Antica shall be guaranteed.

6. Withdrawal from this treaty by either party immediately nullifies the obligations of the remaining party and voids any other existing treaties.

7. This treaty may, by mutual decision and agreement, may be superceded by additional treaties and agreements.

[Oroigawa Koreyasu]

Hmm...

*notices that there are 3 treaties with Antica in the archives, none of which are with a Commonwealth thereof*

...I guess this should be looked at properly then...

Welcome to Shireroth! I hope you enjoy your stay! I am Corey Oroigawa, Steward and Minister of the Exterior of Shireroth, and I will be your diplomat for this evening (well, it's evening here...).

This treaty looks to be in order, so I'll pass it on to the Kaiser and the Landsraad for their approval.

*wishes he had nifty gifts like the Ministry of the Interior*

[Malliki]

1 and 2: What is the definition of a "legal entity"?

3. Does "internationally respected, delineated and natural boundaries" mean specifically that Antica recognizes our Micras territory? In an internet environment, what does exactly "natural boundaries" mean?

5. What is the definition of an "agent of the state"?

[Chrimigules]

*cough*
http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... php?t=8351
http://www.nafticon.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=162

[Oroigawa Koreyasu]

Oh yeah, I remember that now...

[Chrimigules]

Yeah...

[Oroigawa Koreyasu]

The worst part is, I was MiniEx for that one...

Ok, this is obsolete, then. We're good to go.

[Ari Rahikkala]

http://shireroth.org/shirewiki/Foreign_Affairs is even more out of date... I suggest just removing the content from it and putting in a link to http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... =11&t=7335.

[Jonas]

No! That wiki page is the proof I did something!

[Ari Rahikkala]

Indeed, but the treaty archive and the state of foreign affairs list are artifacts of work done by Ric, Scott and me, and they're right in your face when you enter the MiniEx forum

[Jonas]

Ric, Ari and Scott vs Jonas? I win!
MUHAHAHA

[Ari Rahikkala]

Btw, since I was feeling all MiniExific, I updated the economy section in that big allcaps announcement at the top of this forum... and a couple of tiny wording bugs elsewhere...

[Henzelli]

So in my hasty failure to look up any existing treaties, does this mean my request is actually unnecessary?

((And btw, being on dialup, I hate your smilies.))

[Oroigawa Koreyasu]

My apologies about the smilies. I'm on DSL and they slow me down sometimes, too.

But yes, it is unnecessary, and further talks are (or soon will be, rather) in the works in your home nation. It was nice of you to visit though!

[Scott of Hyperborea]

So, Ambassador Henzelli. I've brought this up with every Antican ambassador who's come here, but none of them have listened. Maybe you'll be different.

I like to read what's going on in foreign countries. This is usually pretty easy. In Antica, it isn't. People are always referring to stuff that I can't find. I think it's because many of the most interesting Antican forums are invisible to foreigners. This makes it hard for foreigners to participate or even observe your country, and detracts from Antica's international profile and goodwill. Obviously there are some forums you can't show people, like military and intelligence, but I wish you'd let people see some of your basic conversation areas.

Disclaimer: I may be missing something obvious.

[Chrimigules]

In Antica, it isn't. People are always referring to stuff that I can't find.

In reference to what?

Not to take the thunder from Henzelli, it's just that I'm left scratching my head wondering what I did wrong with the permissions.

[Scott of Hyperborea]

I could have sworn the Assembly was invisible yesterday, but now it's not anymore. Either someone saw this and fixed it, or it was demons.

[Chrimigules]

Were you logged in?