A serious Petition to the Landsraad
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Hesam Jayatar
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
Let me guess, we're waiting for Erik's vote again?
- Oroigawa Koreyasu
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
No, Yvain has the vote, doesn't he?
Oroigawa Koreyasu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
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Erik Mortis
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
He does. I am no longer in the Landsraad... Unoless needed as Arbiter.
Some people seem to be acting like the Landsraad is a representative body. Where a duke is the representative of his duchy. A Duke if the representative of himself. Thus population should not matter. This is not a democracy, using money as a means to measure population of a duchy, and thus how many people a duke represents seems wrong to me in this system.
Some people seem to be acting like the Landsraad is a representative body. Where a duke is the representative of his duchy. A Duke if the representative of himself. Thus population should not matter. This is not a democracy, using money as a means to measure population of a duchy, and thus how many people a duke represents seems wrong to me in this system.
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Hesam Jayatar
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
- A Duke does not "own" the people within the Duchy.
- The wealth of the people within the Duchy benefit the Duchy as a whole.
- No one is suggesting that a Duke is a representative.
- Is it so completely impossible to simply try this for a short time?
Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice
Pronunciation: \js\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment - more at judicial
Date: 13th century
1: injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1): preconceived judgment or opinion (2): an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b: an instance of such judgment or opinion c: an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
- The wealth of the people within the Duchy benefit the Duchy as a whole.
- No one is suggesting that a Duke is a representative.
- Is it so completely impossible to simply try this for a short time?
Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice
Pronunciation: \js\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment - more at judicial
Date: 13th century
1: injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1): preconceived judgment or opinion (2): an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b: an instance of such judgment or opinion c: an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
- b3n|<3r|\|
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
It's not so much prejudice I think, just voting for one reason and stating another.
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
- Jacobus Loki
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
I don't think Yardistans new cits have been counted in the current balance, or the transfer of Musica to Brookshire....
See what I mean?? It's out of whack ALREADY!
(sigh)
Yes, benkern we disagree on this issue. No Big Deal. I don't have any erbs to bet, but if this passes (gods forbid) and lasts past the end of the current reign, I'll accept any job in Yardistan that you want to give me.
PS-
I think any Baron who uses this system to coerce his Duke should be boiled in orange beer.
(BTW I sent my erbs out of Yardistan to reward a supporter, not out of any lack of confidence in benkern.)
See what I mean?? It's out of whack ALREADY!
(sigh)
Yes, benkern we disagree on this issue. No Big Deal. I don't have any erbs to bet, but if this passes (gods forbid) and lasts past the end of the current reign, I'll accept any job in Yardistan that you want to give me.
PS-
I think any Baron who uses this system to coerce his Duke should be boiled in orange beer.
(BTW I sent my erbs out of Yardistan to reward a supporter, not out of any lack of confidence in benkern.)
Jacobus Loki
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
- Andreas the Wise
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
I trust Yvain will do the right thing ... he is wise and rational, after all, and doesn't hold onto preconceived biases ...
The character Andreas the Wise is on indefinite leave.
However, this account still manages:
Cla'Udi - Count of Melangia
Manuel - CEO of VBNC. For all you'll ever need.
Vincent Waldgrave - Lord General of Gralus
Q - Director of SAMIN
Duke Mel'Kat - Air Pirate, Melangian, and Duke of the Flying Duchy of Glanurchy
And references may be made to Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn (a Nelagan Micron of undisclosed purpose).
However, this account still manages:
Cla'Udi - Count of Melangia
Manuel - CEO of VBNC. For all you'll ever need.
Vincent Waldgrave - Lord General of Gralus
Q - Director of SAMIN
Duke Mel'Kat - Air Pirate, Melangian, and Duke of the Flying Duchy of Glanurchy
And references may be made to Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn (a Nelagan Micron of undisclosed purpose).
- Jacobus Loki
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
And he understands the undercurrents and mystery of the place, and does not seem to make decisons based on rancor.
(EDIT- It's done. On to the next hopless cause!)
(EDIT- It's done. On to the next hopless cause!)
Jacobus Loki
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
- b3n|<3r|\|
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
I don't hold it against you. You have many times stated your confidence me as leader of Yardistan. You originally put me there, and surprisingly still think that was a good idea, which I appreciate very much.Jacobus Loki wrote:Yes, benkern we disagree on this issue. No Big Deal. I don't have any erbs to bet, but if this passes (gods forbid) and lasts past the end of the current reign, I'll accept any job in Yardistan that you want to give me
(BTW I sent my erbs out of Yardistan to reward a supporter, not out of any lack of confidence in benkern.)
Of course Jacobus you are welcome in Yardistan any time at all - your rebellious nature (or whatever you want to call it) very much suits the traditional Yardistani archetype. If there's a free County, talk to its Baron and it's yours.
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
- Jacobus Loki
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
Thanks.
I still think the system will fall apart, but it might be fun to watch it fall apart. And it won't hold up peace in Darfur or a cure for cancer.
I still think the system will fall apart, but it might be fun to watch it fall apart. And it won't hold up peace in Darfur or a cure for cancer.
Jacobus Loki
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Lord of Hallucination, Protector of Illumination, MiniEx of Shireroth, Traditional King of the Mala'anje.
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Hesam Jayatar
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
or you could assist in its construction and be a contributing member of the state.
- b3n|<3r|\|
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
Now don't be silly Hesam. 
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
- Ari Rahikkala
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
I'm starting to like this whole... thing, it's making life interesting again. I think I'm going to continue the deal with Liam so I can just sit back and watch the Landsraad fireworks from the sidelines
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No-one should be without a parasol, Sirocco.
- Oroigawa Koreyasu
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Re: A serious Petition to the Landsraad
\o/ YAY! I GET TO CONTINUE VOTING! That dead was gonna expire tomorrow, too, I think... 
Oroigawa Koreyasu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
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