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Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:29 pm
by Kaiser Loki III
1-Greg Russell, a/k/a/ Gman, is hereby awarded the Order of the Phoenix, and is thus declared a Knight of the Living Dead.
(FYI
http://www.shireroth.org/shirewiki/Order_of_the_Phoenix )
2-Maksym Hadjimehmetov is hereby awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional work in securing peace in Benacia.
3- Oroigawa Koreyasu is awarded the Order of the Dragon for exceptional devotion to the Imperial Republic of Shireroth.
4- Mike Fors is awarded the Order of the Dragon for work on Shirithian infrastructure and legal system.
The numerics herein do not indicate preferment or rank.
I hereby waive any restrictions of time for the express purpose of these awards.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:23 am
by Erik Mortis
Then what was the point of putting that restriction on time?
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:07 am
by Malliki
What Erik said. If you're going to waive the time limit every time you award honors, why not just remove it altogether, or just say that it only applies to honors given by the Landsraad? But thanks anyway, your Niftiness.

Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:26 am
by Oroigawa Koreyasu
Woah! I look at this before I go to bed and it's only Greg, then I wake up and BAM! There's my name!
Thank you!
(Exceptional devotion? me?)
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:05 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:02 am
by Jonas
The restrictions, Your Niftiness.

Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:03 am
by Malliki
Jonas wrote:The restrictions, Your Niftiness.

Are in the LawBook and thus technically inferior to all Imperial Decrees.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:08 am
by Jonas
Mike Fors wrote:Jonas wrote:The restrictions, Your Niftiness.

Are in the LawBook and thus technically inferior to all Imperial Decrees.
I know, Mike. But this can bring confusion, in the future.
Kaiser Mahamantot XI: I want to award everyone!
Peasant: But the restrictions, Your Niftiness...
Kaiser: It happened before and it will happen again!
Peasant: But why do we have those restrictions, Your Niftiness?
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:22 am
by Malliki
This has already brought confusion.

It's up to us in the Landsraad to adopt the LawBook regulations to reality, or for the Kaiser to do the same.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:26 am
by Malliki
I'm an idiot.

The regulations are of course in the DecreeBook, so it is only up to the Kaiser to adopt them to reality. We can only complain.

Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:28 pm
by Erik Mortis
And they are binding on him then... He'd have to change the Decreebook first.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:35 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
Implied repeal?
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:18 pm
by Oroigawa Koreyasu
What is this "implied repeal"? Regardless of the laws in the Decreebook, the Kaiser's word is still law until overturned by the Judex and the Landsraad.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:35 pm
by Malliki
Oroigawa Koreyasu wrote:What is this "implied repeal"? Regardless of the laws in the Decreebook, the Kaiser's word is still law until overturned by the Judex and the Landsraad.
Implied repeal means that when a lawmaking institution passes a law that is in conflict with another law, the original law is effectively repealed. There is no specific rule requiring new Imperial Decrees to conform with the DecreeBook, but it would be easier if they did.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:43 pm
by Erik Mortis
By traditional view, the Kaiser is bound by past decrees, until those decrees are repealed... ie. the Decreebook binds the Kaiser, until he edits the Decreebook.
Implied Repeal does not count here. Nor anywhere, as it's not a term under Shireroth law.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:51 pm
by Malliki
There are alot of things that are not terms under Shirerithian law that we still conform to. Tradition, for one. According to the Charter the Kaiser may "make any decree regarding the operation, behavior, functions and/or policy of Shireroth, as well as any actions he deems fit, as long as they do not violate this Charter." The DecreeBook further states that the Kaiser "may use Imperial Decrees in any manner he wishes." So, we can complain, but we only have tradition on our side.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:41 pm
by Kaiser Loki III
So, Mr. Arbiter, please write me a Decree that fixes it!
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:23 am
by Malliki
First of all, your Niftiness, that is not my job.

Second, what is it that you want fixed?
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:48 pm
by Erik Mortis
That which we are complaining about. Perhaps your legal firm could write a decree that works. and get paid.
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:50 pm
by Malliki
Yes, that would be an option. That is my job there after all.

If his Niftiness is interested, he could PM me what he wants the decree to do and I'll draft it. In my capacity as a lawyer of course.

Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:50 pm
by Gman Russell
Thanks. That means alot to me.
*looks around, vanishes*
Re: Imperial Decree 331 - Honors
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:26 pm
by Jacobus Loki
(appears)
Glad to help!