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Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:00 am
by Malliki
Dear Sir,

how would one go about forming a bar association for Shireroth? If formed I would propose the name "League of Lawyers", conveniently abbreviated to LOL. As I am seriously considering forming a business that deals in legal matters, some formal recognition of lawyers would be helpful.

Regards,

Mike Fors

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:13 am
by Kaiser Hasan I
Erik will be away for a bit, however I like the idea. What would you propose?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:14 am
by Krasniy Yastreb
Sounds like a damn good idea... then we don't have to rely on poor old Erik as the only one who can actually recall the relevant law in a given situation. :document

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:43 am
by Aurangzeb Khan
Sign me up. As a Chief Justice of Babkha I have several years experience of due process... :evil

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:07 pm
by Erik Mortis
Lawyers? I liked Inquisitor better myself, cause that's what I used as a term... Then we can have an Inquisition! (You'll just die...)

But find a way to use the name Inquisitor, and I'm down with it.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:19 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
How about Provocateurs instead of prosecutors?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:43 pm
by Erik Mortis
Anyhoo, names aside....

Things I would require...

1. Complete understanding of the Charter.
2. The ability to quote laws clearly.
3. The ability to write a law for the lawbook. (cause so few can it seems)
4. The ability to tell me why or why not a fake situation violates the charter.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:25 pm
by Malliki
I like the requirements posted by Erik. Like a small bar exam. Inquisitor/provocateur/prosecutor sounds more like the official title for those that represent the state in the courts. I am talking about the basic lawyer, that is, both prosecutors and solicitors. There is no problem with calling those lawyers that prosecute Inquisitors and those that defend... uh... defendants lawyers/solicitors/barristers/advocates or whatever we choose.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:36 am
by Erik Mortis
I used Inquisitor for the general terms. They.. inquire... *shrug*

I think it would be best for this organization to be under the purview of the Arbiter and the Imperial Judex. But maybe when I get internet, I can write something for the Landsraad to pass to create it. add it as a part of the Judex Chapter of the Lawbook.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:27 am
by Malliki
I think Inquisitor is more suited for prosecutors. Then a trial can be called an Inquisition. The counsel for the defendant should perhaps be called just an Advocate? That way we can have Devil's Advocates. :) Titles aside, I think that a formalisation of the bar is required and in order. As the Arbiter, I suppose that you should be a member of the bar as well and why not its President (for the duration of your appointment as Arbiter)?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:40 am
by Erik Mortis
Devil's Advocate.. hehehe...

Ok. Prosecution is the Inquisitor, Defense is Advocate. And the Arbiter heads the errr.. whatever we are gonna call this organization, for the length of their term as Arbiter. Trials are called Inquisitions. (bout time we got this all sorted out)

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:02 pm
by Malliki
I still think we should go for League of Lawyers, LOL.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:57 pm
by Jacobus Loki
WARNING! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER!

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:23 pm
by Jess
"Proud LoL"

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:40 pm
by Erik Mortis
I don't like the name Lawyer though...

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:57 pm
by andelarion
The Advinq? Advocates' and Inquisitors' Association?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:16 pm
by Jess
Mango Law People?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:22 pm
by andelarion
I have to say, I quite like that!

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:57 pm
by Malliki
OMG *fjortis*. Let's call it the Advinq in that case. Not Mango Law People. There should be at least some amount of coolness.

Lawyer is just a generic term. LoL.

Or let's just call it The Bar. :party

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:17 am
by Jacobus Loki
"Mango" is cool by definition.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:47 am
by Malliki
Okay, The Mango Bar.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:58 am
by Jacobus Loki
Feels resistance melting.

Just Please, :) don't use the word "lawyer" or "solicitor".

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:31 pm
by Erik Mortis
The Mango Bar.. I like it!

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:41 pm
by Malliki
Okay. The Mango Bar, consisting of LAWYERS, LAWYERS, LAWYERS, SOLICITORS and LAWYERS! Muahahaha!!!!

No, seriously. The Mango Bar, Inquisitors and Advocates.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:45 pm
by Erik Mortis
Headed up by the Imperial Arbiter.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:04 pm
by Malliki
Yep.

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:05 am
by Erik Mortis
Mango Bar Association. MBA... hehe

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:19 pm
by Jess
Mangoers?

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:08 pm
by Erik Mortis
Mangowers...

Re: Bar Association

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:13 pm
by Jess
Very Nice