Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
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Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
0. This bill shall replace the previous procedures of the Landsraad.
1. Members of the Landsraad
Membership in the Landsraad is determined in accordance with the Imperial Charter.
2. Bills
The Landsraad passes changes to the LawBook. Each bill is presented in the form of an unambiguous change to the LawBook, and must have a name used by no bill presented before it. Any member of the Landsraad, and the Praetor, can present a bill for voting.
3. Voting
After a bill has been presented, there is a period of exactly four days (96 hours) during which the members of the Landsraad can vote on it. Each member has one vote, which he or she may cast in any unambiguous way to represent a vote of aye or nay, on any bill during the voting period. A vote only applies to a bill exactly as it has been presented. At the end of the period, the Praetor counts the votes, announces the result, and if the ayes outnumber the nays, updates the LawBook with the changes.
4. The Praetor
The Praetor is appointed in accordance with the Imperial Charter and has the rights and obligations established therein.
5. Speech
The Kaiser, any member of the Landsraad, and the Praetor, can freely express their opinion on any bill presented in the Landsraad. Any person may post in the Landsraad, but the posts of people not expressly allowed to speak freely in the Landsraad are placed in a moderation queue. If the Praetor considers a post in the moderation queue to be important for the members voting on a bill to be aware of, he or she may approve the post to be included. However, the Praetor has no obligation to do this for any post.
1. Members of the Landsraad
Membership in the Landsraad is determined in accordance with the Imperial Charter.
2. Bills
The Landsraad passes changes to the LawBook. Each bill is presented in the form of an unambiguous change to the LawBook, and must have a name used by no bill presented before it. Any member of the Landsraad, and the Praetor, can present a bill for voting.
3. Voting
After a bill has been presented, there is a period of exactly four days (96 hours) during which the members of the Landsraad can vote on it. Each member has one vote, which he or she may cast in any unambiguous way to represent a vote of aye or nay, on any bill during the voting period. A vote only applies to a bill exactly as it has been presented. At the end of the period, the Praetor counts the votes, announces the result, and if the ayes outnumber the nays, updates the LawBook with the changes.
4. The Praetor
The Praetor is appointed in accordance with the Imperial Charter and has the rights and obligations established therein.
5. Speech
The Kaiser, any member of the Landsraad, and the Praetor, can freely express their opinion on any bill presented in the Landsraad. Any person may post in the Landsraad, but the posts of people not expressly allowed to speak freely in the Landsraad are placed in a moderation queue. If the Praetor considers a post in the moderation queue to be important for the members voting on a bill to be aware of, he or she may approve the post to be included. However, the Praetor has no obligation to do this for any post.
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Some points:
- if you don't like a bill, vote nay and explain why.
- if you like a bill except for one bit which you think should be changed, vote nay and explain why.
- if there's a typo in a bill, vote nay and explain why.
- if you don't have an opinion on a bill, just don't say anything about it. I couldn't be bothered to figure out how to get abstentions to work.
- if you like a bill, vote aye.
- if you find you didn't like a bill after all after you voted aye on it, say you're voting nay instead. It's still unambiguous.
- if you can't be around for a while, submit a bill to add LOAs to the procedure
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Anyway, Straylight votes AYE. For now anyway... I wrote this in a couple of dozen minutes after 3 AM, so it's bound to be messier than it seems to me...
- if you don't like a bill, vote nay and explain why.
- if you like a bill except for one bit which you think should be changed, vote nay and explain why.
- if there's a typo in a bill, vote nay and explain why.
- if you don't have an opinion on a bill, just don't say anything about it. I couldn't be bothered to figure out how to get abstentions to work.
- if you like a bill, vote aye.
- if you find you didn't like a bill after all after you voted aye on it, say you're voting nay instead. It's still unambiguous.
- if you can't be around for a while, submit a bill to add LOAs to the procedure
Anyway, Straylight votes AYE. For now anyway... I wrote this in a couple of dozen minutes after 3 AM, so it's bound to be messier than it seems to me...
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Oh, and the moderation queue? It's a fairly simple feature... after assigning the permissions, it's transparent to the poster (they just get a message saying that the post has to be approved by a moderator after posting). Anyone with queue moderator privileges sees posts in the moderation queue as normal posts except that they have a link (with a question mark icon) to allow approving or removing them.
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Kildare says: Aye on the proposel of the Kaiser!
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Elwynn votes Aye.
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Ari isn't the Kaiser... hehe
1 problem. The Charter doesn't outline who can vote in the Landsraad. if just says that it's made up of nobles. The charter is rather vague on matters of that nature...
1 problem. The Charter doesn't outline who can vote in the Landsraad. if just says that it's made up of nobles. The charter is rather vague on matters of that nature...
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Kaiser Mors V wrote:Ari isn't the Kaiser... hehe
1 problem. The Charter doesn't outline who can vote in the Landsraad. if just says that it's made up of nobles. The charter is rather vague on matters of that nature...
A little misunderstanding, Your Niftyness.
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I don't see the problem, Erik. The Charter says that the nobles are members of the Landsraad, these procedures say that members of the Landsraad can vote. We're going to have plenty of time before we have to start considering which kinds of nobles shouldn't have a vote, and we don't know yet what the nation will look like at the time we have to deal with that question.
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Yardistan votes Aye.
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Technically.. there may still be a baron floating around out there..
But.. for now.. Brookshire votes Aye (1)
Old hobbits die hard..
But.. for now.. Brookshire votes Aye (1)
Old hobbits die hard..
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
It's approved.
Aye: four votes
Nay: no votes
Aye: four votes
Nay: no votes
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Re: Bill: Procedures of the Landsraad 3009
Don't forget to put up the precedures, and take down the old ones...
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