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Kaiser titles

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:25 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
Are these really a Landsraad issue? I thought of them less as things that have force of law and more as a cultural "this is what we agree to call these guys" thing.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:38 pm
by Sir Ophiuchus
Well, according to the recent bill, it comes under the remit of the Landsraad...

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:42 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
Oooh, wow, completely missed that bill's existence. Yeah, that'd explain it.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:30 pm
by Shyriath
Yep, we have a procedure now. A bit more formal than I'd like, but it's more likely to get Kaisers some names-of-fond-remembrance... public acclamation doesn't seem to be as forthcoming about that kind of thing.

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:03 pm
by Kaiser Letifer II
Than if the public doesn't care... why should we bother?

I might do something about this. It doesn't sit well with me. I don't feel it should be in the Landsraad perview to do this.

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:05 pm
by Bill3000
It's better to have a true process than none at all, as it is in Shirerothian tradition to completely forget traditions.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:34 pm
by Shyriath
I've posted my own rationale for defending the practice in the Landsraad. But if I may possibly add a personal touch here, where it would be more appropriate:

Not much is left in Shireroth of my time as Kaiser. The Lorelei issue, whether one thinks I did well in poorly in handling it, has become moot; that good old saying, "Death spare you all", has mostly fallen out of use; the office of Ombudsman proved useless and is no longer used; and most of the official documents concerning my reign, in particular the Decrees, vanished in the EZattacks.

The adding of an individual title to a Kaiser's name is one of the few things I introduced that has not disappeared so thoroughly yet as to be forgotten, and I would like it to continue. I am biased in favor of the procedure, this I admit; it is what remains of my legacy as a ruler. But it also helps to look back at leaders of earlier days and know why they were worth remembering, and adding a word or two of description helps in that, if only a little.

Now, I know that conferring such a title does not have to be done by the Landsraad. I do not see it as particularly improper to do so, especially since it amounts to a method of honoring the Kaiser being titled (and also especially since the Kaiser being titled wouldn't be on the throne anymore at the time!), but I acknowledge that there could be other ways to do it. But if this DOES end up being declared outside the purview of the Landsraad, I ask that some other procedure be used in its stead.

I do not want to see this die.