Fastrack: Port Illumination Byzantia

[Sebastien Alexandre]

If you change your part to read 'The Steward of Elwynn' and make it Byzantian Illumination, I will vote.

[Sebastien Alexandre]

He still doesn't have any land on our maps which indicate him as a count.To this I suggest Byzantia claim Lesser Attera as their home (Shirelands) from which it can become part of Elwynn, adding greatly to Elwynese influence overseas in t he nation, and reuniting New and True Halluci. Til then, I vote nay, which negates this until the above is settled.

[Osman Shahanshah]

Again this is a unproductive holding action. Byzantia has been established by Imperial Decree as a county. While gaining Lesser Attera as Byzanita would be a desirable outcome and the process for obtaining it can be set in motion presently it is immaterial to getting Byzantia integrated into Elwynn. Something we should not be putting obsticles in the way of.

[Osman Shahanshah]

The following contract is proposed by the County of Byzantia. All counts of Elwynn are required to vote for or against (aye or nay) in response to this thread. The Chief Justice of Elwynn shall oversee matters of procedure. Counts shall have 48 hours to vote in regard to the proposal. If the measure passes I shall issue the contract and call upon the Counts of Port Illumination and Byzantia to sign alongside myself.I hope to congratulate them on forming the first barony of Elwynn.Quote:1. The County of Port Illumination and the County of Byzantia henceforth shall be bound together to form the singular Barony of Port Illumination Byzantia (PIB).2. The seat of the Baron of PIB shall be filled on a monthly, rotational basis by either Count of the two Counties in the PIB.3. This contract shall enter force on the day that the requirements of Section 8 in the contract of the Duchy of Elwynn shall have been met. Section 8 of that document reads as follows:"8. Should two or more Counties wish to associate themselves with each other and form a Barony, they shall make a joint petition to the Duchy. The Duke of Elwynn will then call together a meeting of all Counties to discuss the rights, privileges, duties, and other particulars of the new Barony's creation. The Duke, along with Counsel from the Chief Justice of Elwynn, shall then make a decision as to the inclusion of the new Barony."

[Osman Shahanshah]

Further to this a petition re Lesser Attera has been made.

[Osman Shahanshah]

It should remain as the Duke as he is the lawful authority I will only be acting in his stead.Also the name will have to be ammended retrospectively since the Count of Byzantia has yet to consent to your ammendment. The purpose of this exercise to in bring in Byzantia to Elwynn where it desires to be. That should be our primary concern. The issue of the name is a cosmetic one.And for the record I vote 'aye'. Edited by: Osman Shahanshah  at: 11/24/05 15:32

[vasroixe]

The MCS map has nothing to do with the joining of our two counties, Ozarka.Please give a better excuse if you don't want to join.Once our counties constitute a Barony you and I will both have access to the Landsraad. I think that should be a big enough incentive for our counties to join. Shirerothian PatriotPrince of Byzantia

[Sebastien Alexandre]

::sighs::Fine, we can decide on Byzantines location later... as well as the name...The County of Port Illumination Votes: An unsuspected aye

[sovereignvikingemperor]

I vote Aye.

[Sir Iain de Vembria]

The Count of Lac Glacei votes:Aye. His Excellency the Chancellor of the Sovereign Order of TreesiaThe Right Honorable the Count of Lac Glacei

[Sebastien Alexandre]

Well.. now all we need is Vaxroixe's aye and its official.

[vasroixe]

Aye! Shirerothian PatriotPrince of Byzantia

[Osman Shahanshah]

Then I declare this approved and call upon the two individuals this concerns to sign formally.

[RicLyon]

We would still need to discuss and reach a settlement on the competences of PIB.

[Sebastien Alexandre]

Say wha?

[RicLyon]

I mean that we have to decide what the Barony can do. What powers it has and so on. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Sebastien Alexandre]

Hmm.. doesn't a baron get two votes, added to his Duchy?So in essence, would it not beb right for us to keep rights over those two votes?

[Kaiseress Semisa I]

One vote for each county, plus one for barony status. Three, at minimum. And, as your Duke, he takes them, though he should probably give you SOMEthing.

[RicLyon]

Here's a draft outline on competences and that:The Barony of Port Illumination Byzantia shall receive a forum of its own. In return the Barony promises to remain fairly active.Until the Vivantia, 1 (December 21) Port Illumination Byzantia will be ruled in condominium between the Counts. It shall until that time have no representative in the Landsraad. On Vivantia, 1st, the Baron of Port Illumination Byzantia will be Ozarka Mons and his term shall expire on the last day of Vivantia. Thus, the month of Mo'lluk will have Vasroixe as baron, with the following month ruled by OzarkaOn Vivantia 1st, the Barony shall receive one vote in the Landsraad of Shireroth, and if proven active in its own forum the Barony will receive an additional vote. If in the Landraad the Barony is loyal to Elwynn and the rights of the Duchy, then one more vote may be awarded at the discretion of the Duke. When activity in its forum decreases so may the votes of the Barony.Citizens of the Barony may still vote in Elwynnese referendums.The Barony shall never go against Elwynnese law, but the Barony may make laws by itself as long as they do not contradict Elwynnese or Shirerithian federal law.The Barony has full admistrative jurisdiction over its territory.

[Osman Shahanshah]

Fine but do we really need a seperate forum for baronies? Especially if in the long run we get the maximum of three baronies? Activity should stay Elwynn focused. In all the other Duchies the creation of baronial forums divides and decreases a duchy's activity.

[RicLyon]

As long as we have a way of judging activity it'd be really good having everythin Elwynn-centred. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Sebastien Alexandre]

Isn't their a way to stick a subforum inside an already existing forum, as is done in invisionfree forums?That wya, you click on Elwynn, and a 'Port Illumination Byzantia' icon is there. Then, all our posts count towards Elwynn.

[vasroixe]

I hereby sign the contract between Ozarka Monta and Byzantia.Count Matthew I of Byzantia Shirerothian PatriotPrince of Byzantia

[Osman Shahanshah]

Thank you Count Matthew. Now Count Ozarka would you do likewise?Quote: Isn't their a way to stick a subforum inside an already existing forum, as is done in invisionfree forums?As I understand it that is sadly not an option on Ezboard.

[david northworthy beckfor]

no, but with javascript, I think it can be made to look like that. If you feel an icy chill...the Conglacio is amongst you

[Sebastien Alexandre]

Signed,High Illuminator and Count Ozarka Mons of the County of Port Illumination