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Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:57 pm

But they would still live... and would be back...

We actually only lost about a month due to that hack on ezboard. and EZboard actually handled it pretty well from my recalling of it...

Post by **Jonas** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:24 am

If you hack them and destroying there computer with a virus they will be dead...

Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Sun May 27, 2007 5:46 pm

new computer.. library access... etc...

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:06 am

Your Kaiser is correct. There is really no way to win a (non-recwar) micronational war unless the enemy let's you.

There is no way to force a surrender. It either needs to end by fair and honest negotiation, or one side or the other has to loose interest.

The RL consequences of engaging in DNS attacks is not worth anything in micronationry.

That doesn't mean that a military doesn't have value. The FCS "Kenneth K. Thacker" has just come into service with our navy, and it certainly adds well to story lines.

(Meanwhile,
In RL, Russia seems to have launced a RL cyberwar with Estonia )

Warm Regards,
JBSK

Post by **Jonas** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:22 am

President Jacobus wrote:
(Meanwhile,
In RL, Russia seems to have launced a RL cyberwar with Estonia )

Ow really?

Braden Indianensis · Post by **Braden Indianensis** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:40 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yes.

Post by **Jonas** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:07 am

Fantastic...

Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:22 pm

I seem to have heard this "fact" from another source.... thus perhaps there is amusing truth to it.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:53 am

About in originally in the "Economist", but here is one of many stories

http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/15717

Post by **Jonas** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:20 am

This is a joke, isn't it?

hypatias mom · Post by **hypatias mom** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:35 pm

I don't believe so, no. This type of thing happens all too often.

Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:33 pm

Poor Estonia....

There was the idea for a time of creating a simulation to do micronational warefare.. but once again.. required cooperation...

Jesus · Post by **Jesus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:50 am

I don't approve of warfare.

Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:52 am

I was wondering when you would show up...

Cute puppy... what you feed him? ...out of curiosity...

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:21 pm

I hope you're joking - otherwise that's a lamb you tit.

Kaiser Letifer III · Post by **Kaiser Letifer III** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:17 pm

Yes..

Fausticus · Post by **Fausticus** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:05 am

uhhh lamb, puppy.... they are both kinda Fuzzy so whats it really matter? -laughs meniacally-

Prodigy Almighty · Post by **Prodigy Almighty** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:28 pm

...

Jesus comes to Shireroth?

Damn! I need to get an autograph sometime!

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:42 pm

HE is everywhere!
And of course,

Everybody comes to Shireroth..eventually......

Kaiser Mors V · Post by **Kaiser Mors V** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:57 pm

It's EVERYONE's destiny to come here...

Fausticus · Post by **Fausticus** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:47 am

Yes! Shireroth is better than Heaven if jesus has visited it!!!! -luaghs odly-

Post by **Jonas** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:14 am

All ways lead to Shireroth

Fausticus · Post by **Fausticus** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:17 am

SO FRIGGIN COOL!! I LOVE SHIREROTH NOW!!! haha

Kaiser Mors V · Post by **Kaiser Mors V** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:06 pm

AS you should...

Maksym Hadjimehmetov · Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:10 am

Yeah, what with being a Shirereithan citizen and all...

Kaiser Mors V · Post by **Kaiser Mors V** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:10 am

I've suspected some people of not loving shireroth who were citizens...in the past.

Maksym Hadjimehmetov · Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:00 pm

Which begs the question 'Why do they bother posting in the first place, then?'

hypatias mom · Post by **hypatias mom** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:10 pm

I think for some it becomes a habit, or an obsession, and long after the love for Shireroth has departed, it continues to nag at them, like an itch one must scratch. This doesn't always make for the best input to our forum.

Maksym Hadjimehmetov · Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:22 pm

Meh. It gets activity up though.
And make those of us who do post willingly look much better in the eyes of His Niftiness!

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:18 am

Jacobus Loki wrote:Your Kaiser is correct. There is really no way to win a (non-recwar) micronational war unless the enemy let's you.

There is no way to force a surrender. It either needs to end by fair and honest negotiation, or one side or the other has to loose interest.

Not strictly true, the reason for the validity of micronational warfare is hinted at in that last quoted sentance. If your opponent looses interest and departs the scene you win by default.

To be sure it is not the sort of medium that yields quick and decisive victories, unless you are privy to private information such as where the opponent lives there is no 'kinnetic' solution to a online dispute by, for example, smacking them repeatedly round the head with a baseball bat - indeed there would be certain consequences in the real world that might attach themselves to that sort of action, the same with the more extreme forms of cyber-attack where, unless you have friends in the Kremlin or Beijing, all manner of law enforcement agencies will be most keen to bring you to book.

However if one is talking a long war of attrition then we are once again in the realms of the possible and the licit. If you cannot destroy your enemy outright you must eat away at his morale and his resolve to remain in the game, you must break his will to resist and carry on the struggle - that I believe takes us into the realm of flame wars and Psy Ops, or to put it more plainly bullying.

Accordingly I believe that micronational warfare is not only possible but has been practiced on innumerable occassions.

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