how do you pronounce "Shire"?

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:21 pm

when talking about the county I live in, "Derbyshire" I pronounces the shire bit as "sha" therefore, "Darbeesha"

what talking about Brookshire or Goldshire, I pronounce is "sheer" or "she-ya" therefore, "Gol'sheya"

but for Shireroth, I pronounce it "shy-ya" therefore, "Shyaroth"

Delphi · Post by **Delphi** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:24 pm

There's no "r" sound in any of these...

21st Century Stjepan · Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:46 pm

English accents are non-rhotic so they typically don't pronounce r's at the end of words. I guess he forgot that not everyone is English though.

I pronounce it as shy-r or maybe shy-er* in Shireroth and sher* in Brookshire.

*unstressed e

UEC · Post by **UEC** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:04 pm

Shy-er.. I think the Ancient site had a thing on pronounciation.

Delphi · Post by **Delphi** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:06 pm

That right there is how I pronounce it.

AngelGuardian93 · Post by **AngelGuardian93** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:10 pm

It... doesn't... matter???

Delphi · Post by **Delphi** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:11 pm

It matters!

AngelGuardian93 · Post by **AngelGuardian93** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:12 pm

Not really. In the long-term anyway.

21st Century Stjepan · Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:19 pm

Why doesn't it matter in the long term?

Gryphon Avocatio · Post by **Gryphon Avocatio** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:35 pm

Why can't you people use IPA or SAMPA?

I say [SaIr] personally, but I'm, of course, American.

I would expect [Sir] from a lot of British people, but that would depend heavily on where your from.

AngelGuardian93 · Post by **AngelGuardian93** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:50 pm

Why? Because we'll never agree.

Krasniy Yastreb · Post by **Krasniy Yastreb** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:29 pm

On its own, I pronounce Shire as "shy-ah", but in names like Wiltshire and Hampshire I say "shuh".

If I was American instead of English the pronunciations would be "shy-err" and "shurr" respectively...

21st Century Stjepan · Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:56 pm

If we can't agree, then let's make a committee!

And fine, I shall use English IPA for American English pronunciation

In Shireroth

In Brookshire

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That should be about it

UEC · Post by **UEC** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:52 am

Or.. all bow to me.. as I named the nation.. thus... it's pronounced how *I* intended it to be pronounced.. thus.. no commitee.. no debate... end of problem..

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:59 am

I don't get IPA

and Erik, it's regional accents!

*orders all schlangens to pronounce it my way*

siriain · Post by **siriain** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:24 am

Erik's way is the only way it should be pronounced [shy'r], even if as a suffix it tends to vary towards 'sheer' in general usage.

But it's 'hire' with an 's', so if you can pronounce 'hire' correctly, then you can just as easily pronounce 'shire' correctly.

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:12 am

while on an official and national level, it should be pronounced however Erik says, like I say, regional accents would have it different....

stevenAntica · Post by **stevenAntica** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:33 pm

New York accents regularly drop the "r"...

New Yowk, How ya doin'...etc...and Boston Accents are non rhotic, "Pak the ca in havad yad"

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:38 pm

Sh-igh-er-raw-th

Bill3000 · Post by **Bill3000** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:00 pm

I protest, Steven. That's New York City, not Long Island. I still pronounce "r"s perfectly.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:15 pm

But you Long Islanders still fubar the language. Speak proper New England American!

And I pronounce it the same way they do in Lord of the Rings.

Which, coincidentally, is the same way as Erik does - shy'r.

Now ain't that scary!

Bill3000 · Post by **Bill3000** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:26 pm

Uh, "New England" American is used as FUBARed, if not even moreso. If you are talking about a generic American accent, go to the Midwest.

As well, I don't even have much of a Long Island accent.

UEC · Post by **UEC** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:49 pm

I like the real Californian accent...

Bill3000 · Post by **Bill3000** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:09 pm

Obviously, since you are from California.

Rarkasha · Post by **Rarkasha** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:52 pm

I'm not sure if it's because I lived for 10 years in CA, but I have tendancy to say "dude" fairly often.

AngelGuardian93 · Post by **AngelGuardian93** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:02 pm

I say that alot, and i'm not. It must be something in the water.

Sebastien Alexandre · Post by **Sebastien Alexandre** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:34 pm

I say 'Shire' like they said it in the Lord of the Rings.

"We're hobbits! Shirelings!"

Post by **Shyriath** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:07 pm

I pronounce it as shy-r or maybe shy-er* in Shireroth and sher* in Brookshire.

As do I. I mean, really, pronouncing "shire" in full at the end of a word?

21st Century Stjepan · Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:25 pm

Well, that's me imitating quasi-British-soundingness

Btw, this forum is suddenly doing bizarre things to my window.

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