Atos System Redux

[VA Foghorn]

PHYSICS NERDS UNITE!Count me in. Pehaps a nice 10-planet system? I never liked it that our solar system only had 9 when Bob could have just as easily plopped a 10th in there to make us perfectionists feel all happy about our base 10 numerical system.

[Bill3000]

That sounds nice. Would seem odd if we would have the same number of planets as our system anyway. Though perhaps we should at least see what we have in terms of suggestions. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Bill3000]

I'm fine with that. If Tarsica is offical via decree, that's fine with me. Atropos can be an alternate cultural name by Soloralists. (as there are different words people use for Micras, etc)Claimable... By this you mean no colonies, right? Would probes/exploration be allowed, however? Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[VA Foghorn]

how about small colonies? one never knows, Recwars could soon introduce interplanetary warfare...

[Bill3000]

Right. Well, it seems like we lost the information of the Atos System with the ezBoard destruction of old archives. But not to worry. There are plenty of people who would be interested in a project like this. Let me start saying this:The Atos System Project is a project in which micronationalists create descriptions for the planets in the solar system in which the planet, Micras (The MCS planet) is in. I want this to be outside of Shireroth, and as much feedback from as many participants as possible. Why? Two reasons - first of all, I'd bet a good amount of us are physics nerds, given our backgrounds. Second of all, to bring us all together on something that we can all like.Here's how we will do this.First of all, we need to know the basics. Obviously, there is at least one planet in the Atos System - Micras. What we need to do is figure out what other planets there will be in the Atos System, what names they have, et cetera. We'll do this by allowing everyone suggest a planet and planet name and we'll vote/eliminate down to a reasonable number of planets.After this, we'll assign different planets to people. They would come up with the physical description of the planet. Micras will be special, obviously, especially since it's almost done. (through the MCS)Perhaps we could then make it "offical" in some way, by declaring the moon of Micras and such.What do you guys think? Are you interested? And if you people don't like the name of the star (Atos), I'm sure we can rename it. I have suggestions myself for planets, obviously, but I want others to have feedback as well. This should be a work done by a lot of micronationalists, anyone who is interested.Some given stuff already:Quote:1. The planet we are on is Micras.2. Micras has one moon named Tarsica. Tarsica is basically a friendlier version of Luna - more water, volcanic activity, extremely thin atmosphere and some minimal flora and fauna to sustain the eco-balance.3. None of these worlds will be claimable by MCS standards and that expanding offworld has been strictly forbidden by Ryan, Scott and Erik. Probes, Satellites, Sojourner Rovers, etc are fine, but no offworld claims.4. Another planet is Momiji, which is basically another Terran world with a more tropical climate, closer to the star than Micras.5. The results of this project belong to micronationalism as a whole; no one person, nation, or organization can claim credit and ownership for this project. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/12/05 13:08

[Ryan Caruso]

Three stipulations to my participation and endorsment of this project:1. You recognise Tarsica as Micras' only moon. I've already made this official through MCS decree a long time ago when Cibola was added. So that should be as given as Micras.2. You recognise Momiji as as one of those other planets. It already is done and i'd like to put it to good use.3. You admit full well beforehand that none of these worlds will ever be claimable by MCS standards and that expanding offworld has been strictly forbidden by me, Scott and Erik. And since the three of us combined form the Trinary of Light and Ultimate Power™, that decleration can never be broken. EDIT: Shit, old login.. Edited by: Ryan Caruso  at: 6/10/05 18:01

[Taoiseach Taicardainre I]

I would say he means no maps. Like our moon... noone claims it . Is a good idea to only have one map with nations on it. Taoiseach Taicardainre IThe Grand Commonwealth - Aerlig - MNN - Treesia - mncentre - EIFA - Lemuria

[Bill3000]

Well, there ARE maps of the moon. I assume you mean maps with nations/colonies/claims on it. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Emperador Augustin]

No colonies.Probes. Satellites. Sojourner Rovers. Fine. Build all you like. But no offworld claims.As it is, Tarsica is unihabitable by our standards. It's basically a friendlier version of our own moon - more water, volcanic activity, extremely thin atmosphere and some minimal flora and fauna to sustain the eco-balance.

[Gryphon the Pure]

Dyson. Gryphon the Pure- Shirithian Elder - Dutch of Kildare - Minister of the Interior - High Priest of Apostrophe aka Grammar Fuhrer - Director of the Shirithian Census - Imperial Advisor -q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);

[Ari Rahikkala]

Quote:I never liked it that our solar system only had 9 when Bob could have just as easily plopped a 10th in there to make us perfectionists feel all happy about our base 10 numerical system.That's funny - I've been thinking that it would be a good idea to relegate Pluto to the status of a Kuiper Belt object so that the number of planets would be a power of two . Jag har glömt hur pjäserna stod!

[Kaiser Alejian I]

I look forward to good things from this. Good luck!

[Taoiseach Taicardainre I]

Dyson reminds me of a vacuum cleaner.If you think how planets have been named in RL, they are based on Gods etc of those who discovered them. Here, you would be more creating them than discovering them, perhaps once you work out a number of planets the person who works out the actuals for the planets (size, mass, stuff about the planet) could be considered the 'discoverer' and choose the name for the planet. Choosing names by committee would be a long drawn out process, if someone if willing to do some work perhaps there should be a reward.Its certainly an interesting concept, I would be interested in seeing it develop . Taoiseach Taicardainre IThe Grand Commonwealth - Aerlig - MNN - Treesia - mncentre - EIFA - Lemuria

[Gryphon the Pure]

Dyson is a reference to the theoretical Dyson sphere idea, that if a sun could be synthetically created and contained, you could have a system of maximum efficiency by building the planet around the sun facing in, spinning it for gravity or something.Of course, the Imperials would have been brighter than to spin the shell, considering that would create ever-decreasing gravity out toward the poles, and only a ring area near the equator would be stable enough to be habitable. Somehow they would have to have synthesized gravity, possibly by saturated electromagnetic fields.Anyhow, I'll work that stuff out later.The point is that theoretically nobody knows this about Dyson, and it just looks like a humongous dry planet at the edge of the system. Gryphon the Pure- Shirithian Elder - Dutch of Kildare - Minister of the Interior - High Priest of Apostrophe aka Grammar Fuhrer - Director of the Shirithian Census - Imperial Advisor -q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);

[Harvey the Blue]

Tarsica is a cool name so I like that. No such promise on Momiji, but if you want it I don't really see why we can't put it in.Myself, I just want to see Indigo be one of the planets. I really liked that one. Monkey and Gottagobye had a certain charm to them as well. Harvey SteffkeSai'Kar's Memories LiveJournal - ranting about Shirerothian issues since fall 2004.

[Ryan]

Momiji is Japanese for Maple.Here's the map;http://www.geocities.com/microca...omiji.html Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

[Osman Shahanshah]

Quote:3. You admit full well beforehand that none of these worlds will ever be claimable by MCS standards and that expanding offworld has been strictly forbidden by me, Scott and Erik. And since the three of us combined form the Trinary of Light and Ultimate Power™, that decleration can never be broken. The very stars themselves will bend to the will of the Unconquered Sun and adherents of the Taoiseach and Shahan-Ri shall populate the galaxy.

[Kaiser Alejian I]

*blink*

[Chimaera the Wise]

Ardashir: Go choke on a dick. You must only try to realize the truth - There is no sig.

[Kaiser Alejian I]

*sigh*

[hypatias mom]

Joe, do we really need this?

[Bill3000]

No spam or insults in this thread please. Only those who are interested in this project. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Harvey the Blue]

I think it would be a good idea to agree ahead of time that the results of this meeting-of-the-minds belong to micronationalism as a whole, and thus no one person, nation, or organization can claim credit and ownership for this project. Harvey SteffkeSai'Kar's Memories LiveJournal - ranting about Shirerothian issues since fall 2004.

[Ryan]

Since Micras is designed, from an MCS perspective, to [somewhat] mirror Earth, it should be set in relatively the same orbit around the sun. Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

[OctaviusMe]

If we do indeed have 10 (or 8... I personally think 7 because I like the numbers 17... hey... maybe it can be 17...), where do you guys think Micras should be? second? fourth? maybe fifth if we have a lot?If it's below 9, I think it'd be pushing it to place Micras fourth or more. Rather, it would probably do better at Second or Third, more toward the former if we have even smaller.If we go with 10 or more, then we could probably go to Fourth of Fifth, so it all depends, I guess. Edited by: OctaviusMe  at: 6/12/05 5:58

[RicLyon]

This is interesting, to be sure.But I don't really like the Maple name for our nearby planet. I mean, names of planets evolve from cultural themes of the main planet. Micras from Microns for example.But on the other hand, since the Grand Star people were the first space visitors, and they all spoke "Japanese", perhaps they were the ones "naming" the planet. Hmm?What if we made somekind of fictitious space exploration ("first Micran on Mimiji")? Would nations be able to build bases on Mimiji and that moon (Indigo? Tacaradakkkakka? I'll call it "Moon"), like when I look on a map of Antarctica I see no claims, but small dots saying "Vostok (Russia)" or "Zhongshan (China)". Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[VA Foghorn]

yeah, small settlements. No large swaths of land available for claim, just dots. I like that idea. It allows for wonderful star wars esque battles while still appeasing those who don't want to see interplanetary colonization.

[Ryan]

The name stays as Momiji. That planet is my baby. Anyways, if you want a planet designed to your tastes, go ahead. There's 8 more slots to fill, not to mention asteroids and fragment belts. Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

[VA Foghorn]

hmm.....how about a nice, moderate sized planet about 36 million miles from Micras? I shall call it Bob!

[Ryan]

For those who care, this page provides an in-depth look at Tarsica.http://www.geocities.com/microca...cadef.html Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.