Banning: Laws and Reprocussions,

[Kaiseress Jadie]

The Feudal holdings act is not violated....Erik has pseudo power as Kaiser and as the duke of Goldshire. I can override anything he says when it comes to that. That make sense?I know you won't do anything Erik...I am sometimes worried that you might. Kaiseress Jadie IThe Elf-Cat Kaiseress of Shireroth

[Stone Jackabar]

i like the idea of a more streamlined system of whats illeagle...come to think of it, i don't even know where the laws are, not for things like fudal groups, but for the citizens. Friends help friends move. REAL friends help friends hide the bodies.......and there's ALOT of bodies.....

[Gryphon Avocatio]

Quote:(edit) and because their ties are not to the country but the people in it, they will do anything to please the people they know (example: kaiserial wedding, sudden drop of the unbanning topic) whether or not it agrees with the country or its wellbeing.This sounds very similar to something I said that everybody argued with...hmm...well...except joseph...go figure...i'm glad somebody agrees with me...Quote:Well thats fine, veto is often the right of the executive, but its important that these laws are:1: Catalogued so everyone knows what is illegal.2. Upheld so that laws have meaning.If Shireroth is going to be a nation, it must have structure to some degree. We can now see the problem that will arrise. Suppose Erik leaves again? With no basis to work from, the next leader will not know what to do. There is no basis to build on. Now I know Shireroth has been around for a while, but now it has more activity than I can ever remember, and the society must grow to meet this. 1) I did catalogue the laws. As you can see, that hasn't helped public ignorance (as you can see) for even out executive isn't quite familiar with all of them.2) You know, I wish that people in this nation would uphold the laws. It would make this place so much better and so much stronger. It's pretty easy to bend the systme right now...Finally, when erik leaves, everybody freaks out. i was steward once when erik was not Kaiser...and I ran the nation...and it survived, quite well...it wasn't a particularly active period, and i stove to ensure that activity was maintained...however, I am an elder (the eldest next to erik...although we could argue that scott is...it's a long story)...and I know the nation well...that gave me an advantage...but people aren't want to listen to me since I am a well known radical...but they forget that I'm here....always willing to help... -Gryphon Avocatio- Lord Governor and Duke of all Yardistan - Minister of Research and Education, Shireroth - Shirerothian Elder - "Minsiter of Dance, Pants and Funny Walks" - SAVE THE KIWI!! - Lover of Llamas "You're intense and driven. That can lead to a lot of good things. It can also lead to high blood pressure and a closing of the arteries." -Mr. Mathews -- "I think that people who drive Hummers are clueless, and that they just have enough money to advertise it." -Peter Camejo -- "Skanky-Deutch-Ho-Bag!!" -Mike