Intermicronational Human Righst.....

[Kaiser Raynor X]

Is there even such thing as them?What are they...? And can they even be violated?I've been accused by some.. individuals.. of violating Intermicronational human rights... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[Harvey the Blue]

How so?Anyway, any human rights would have to be defined in some charter, and Shireroth would have had to sign the charter. I dunno how much of that you have been doing.Maybe the AoM is exerting its ugly dead influence? Harvey SteffkeJadie's Lesser HalfSaves the worldProud bearer of the Shirerothian Silver Sword Award and Imperial Star

[JoeWhit]

There are no intermicronational Human Rights. I hereby deny their existance and hereby revoke my own nonexistant rights.

[Kaiser Raynor X]

I don't think we've ever signed.. ANYTHING... about human rights...Hey Joe!.. Good to see ya! *hug* Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[Mari Greenwood]

I really do not understand how your could possibly be violating micronational human rights? Who came up with that strange idea?

[Kaiser Raynor X]

I'de rather not say.. since they never gave me permission to say.. But it had to do with my restrictions on citizenship. Saying I had no right to restrict it... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[Mari Greenwood]

Ha Ha!You know that I have tried to get you to change that. However, I always felt that in your postion you had the right. And that anyone who did not like it had the right to leave.

[Kaiser Raynor X]

I appreciate that. Although I wouldn't want them to.. I will not stop anyone from leaving... And.. How could I? I can't. Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[ErosDarkstar]

A dictator has EVERY right to restrict it. That's why they're DICTATORS. Gods. Eros Darkstar al Sylvas ij Qel'AthasLast Son of Night"The Great are Only Great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" -Stirner"There never was a saint with red hair" -Russian Proverb

[Ari Rahikkala]

Besides... I can't for my life figure out why not being restricted dual citizenship should be a micronational human right... "I believe they just installed Gentoo Linux."

[Kalir Sethan]

No. There's no such thing. I know some people have made half-hearted attempts to create some, but they've failed like everything else and we were never invovled. And if there was, they wouldn't involve silly dual citizenship laws. Bonk whoever's been bothering you about that sort of thing on the head for me.

[RicLyon]

Why not do one? In our own way that is.

[RicLyon]

Maybe like this (bad draft)Each human* is entitled to their own micronational citizenship. No one may have her citizenship revoked unless she holds more than one citizenship.

[Bill3000]

That would mean that Archetype violated intermicronational human rights then. :p Bill DuschBil'Per Car'SetQuillan Fatebane, 53rd Paladin of Lanys T'Vyl"Never doubt that a small group of thoughful, committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead"Remember, there is no such thing as a stupid question, except possibly from Peter Little." - Marach Siskind"ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics..." - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief"Women in Babkha? Not that I know of. We could kidnap Baharm and dress him up like a woman. He's just like one - all he does is bitch. " - Scooter Mk2"You have the diplomatic skills of a random rock." - Jason Steffke, to Bill DuschDISCLAIMER: What Bill Dusch posts is not the offical position of Menelmacar, Elpidos, the Apollo Sector, Micras, the Soloralist religon, the Circle of Knowledge guild, the Paladin class, or the Lanys T'vyl server.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Stop that witchhunt already, will you, Bill? We know Archie is evil and he ought to be expelled from the Internet and all that jazz, and we don't need an evangelist to go around preaching about it. As I've told you many times before, go learn some programming, you'll like it :).RicLyon: What does that asterisk mean? That the rights extend to dolphins and talking dogs, too ;)?BTW, that draft is very bad. If I got it right, it means that a nation which has signed it would not be able to expel those of its own citizens who don't have citizenships in other nations...&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp "I believe they just installed Gentoo Linux."

[Kaiser Raynor X]

And it would kinda make it hard for us to put in place one of our only punishments... Exile...... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[Shyriath]

Assuming that it applied only to humans, I suppose that elves AREN'T guaranteed citizenship? I imagine quite a few elves about would have a problem with that. :PFor that matter, so would dragons in Shirlan. But that's okay, they're oppressed anyway.

[RicLyon]

"humans*" means everyone who is human or doplhin or whatever that is capable of writng in forums.

[Kaiser Raynor X]

Under Shireroth law everyone is a human.. since.. everyone typing is physically a human... despite what your.. persona.. or character or whatnot is... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[Shyriath]

Oh, that's all right then.

[Kaiser Raynor X]

I should really put that into writing soon...I tihnk the only real right people have in any nation is to leave... the right to leave a nation.... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

[RicLyon]

1. Equality rights2. Rights to leave a nation3. Rights to hold a citizenship4. Asylum rights5. Extradiction rights6. Internet rightsetc...

[Cguan Leon Veto Guerrero]

You may wish to visit Republica de Baracão and peruse our draft constitution whic includes the rights of the citizens. "Let the kids play with themselves, ignore them, don't visit their boards, don't listen to "Radio Politika" which is nothing more than lies, and the usual Bobby Propaganda." Archetype 23, High Priest of Yellow

[Kaiser Raynor X]

1. Equality rights2. Rights to leave a nation3. Rights to hold a citizenship4. Asylum rights5. Extradiction rights6. Internet rightsI don't see any ecept 2 as valid Human righs.. that everyone should get.... 4 and 5 are more political and deal with nations intereactions... 6.. Not much we can do there can we? I can't say.. Right.. you can't go online anymore! 1. Depends on the type of nation. Shireroth is feudal.. so.. not everyone is equal....3. You shouldn't have the right to citizenship. I know I would want to denie citizenship... Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth