I want to erect more cities

[RicLyon]

So I'd need good and sensible names.Ardy has already got a city so he's already disqualified for having a city named after him.I'm thinking of Elwynnese translations/transliterations of Greenwood and Northworthy/Beckford in honour of the great leaders of the land.Maybe some Hurmudan names too, to make Hurmu have a mark on the land since their occupation.Or maybe something elvish...What do you think? Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[sovereignvikingemperor]

What about Gèlehild?

[RicLyon]

What does it mean? Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[sovereignvikingemperor]

It means freezing place.

[AngelGuardian93]

FYI, the human cities and the (now) abandoned Elvish cities were seperate places, usually close to each other but the Elves were more in the forests... well, when Elywnn still HAD forests... *mumbles* There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[RicLyon]

I did think that Eliria was the last elven city, but I suppose it was sacked and a city in Babkhan style was built over it.I think there are a few forests in the south of Elwynn, near the Brookshire border. Maybe we could erect a town in elven style there. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Osman Shahanshah]

Indeed so. For a time it was even called Eliriashahr.

[RicLyon]

There is still a huge mosque in Umra style there. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Osman Shahanshah]

Ah Umraist Islam, such a vibrant religion. It's main tenets being that anyone who disagreed with Umra was going to hell. I still miss the deranged nutjob.

[RicLyon]

And that was spread through missionaries calm and serene to the lands of Elwynn. Such a warm feeling. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Osman Shahanshah]

Yes the warm feeling would be from the calm serene missionaries burning the houses of unbelievers.

[RicLyon]

It was for their own good, wasn't it?They warn them: "You think burning down your house is hell? Wait until you die! Then you'll experience real hell" It's just for the normal working class people so that they can get perspective about what they really should prioritise. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[RicLyon]

Hardly any of the Elwynnese places have Babkhan names Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Bill3000]

Last time I checked, two of them. Eliriashahr (from the old Shireroth days before Mari's Elwynn) and Ardishirshahr. Eliminate the shahr from Eliria and destroy Ardishirshahr for revenge against the Purge of Nonhumans. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Bill3000]

Elwynn has enough cities. A wise thing to do would be to de-Babkhanize Elwynn, (As Babkha is not deserving of rememberance) and heck, give reparations to the survivors of the elves.Actually, I think I'll do that anyways. (Renames the Elwynn cities on the Shireroth map) Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismPissing off Micras, one nation at a timeProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 9/18/05 16:29

[osmose1000]

Yardistan would support that. They call it a signature, but no one ever signs their posts...

[RicLyon]

Eliria is called Eliria now, whatever the map says. Ardashirshahr is like our Stalingrad. Whatever we rename it to it will still be Ardashirshahr. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Bill3000]

Right. We're still destroying it anyways. Time to liberate Elwynn from the remnents of the Babkhan Erudites.*sends in the Control of Destiny Militia* Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[AngelGuardian93]

I support this action. There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[Sir Quillan Fatebane]

For Elpidos! For Menelmacar! For Elwynn! For the elves! Edited by: Sir Quillan Fatebane  at: 9/18/05 19:49

[RicLyon]

Are you Bill? Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Zirandorthel]

Of course it's Bill, who else would mourn Menelmacar or Elpidos?I think that "destroying" the Ardashir dynasty's cities is about as bad as deleting a forum wholesale. Ardashir was a good leader for Elwynn, much better than his rather pathetic predecessor, whose vision for Elwynn was that of a huge, air-conditioned shopping mall, where elves would pick posies and run amid the astro-turf meadows. Wil Nider to the HyperboreansEoin to the restZirandorthel to the ages

[RicLyon]

I'm still mourning Menelmacar Anyway, I try to sit in the middle between the different Elwynn cultures. I do take stands, but even if Alexander committed atrocities wherever he went, he is still seen as a person of great importance althrough the Near and Middle Easts.We can't deny history, or try and be politically correct in trying to "alter" what has been done. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Bill3000]

History is denied all the time - this was the major reason why Menelmacar was so important, because it represented a link to the past which people had forgotten and refused to remember.Those who deny history must be denied themselves. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Bill3000]

And that's precisely why Mari was better than Ardishir. Given the oppression of the elves in our post-Tymaria world, a paradise for them is just what they need. At most I'd understand if Elwynn was transformed to a Pre-Mari Elwynn, with at least some refuge for elves, but Babkhanizing a land in Shireroth is intolerable.And that's why Ardishirshahr must be destroyed. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 9/19/05 6:44

[Osman Shahanshah]

My dear chap, in the late period of readjustment in post Mari Elywnn I never sought to deny the existance of the elvish culture merely to adjust their position in the cultural legacy of the barony.

[Bill3000]

Transforming a culture through the slaughter of the people who are responsible for the culture is just the same as denying its existance. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Zirandorthel]

You just said "fox" wayyyy too many times.Anyway, Bill, is it not up to the citizens of Elwynn to decide their fiefdom's culture? Wil Nider to the HyperboreansEoin to the restZirandorthel to the ages

[Osman Shahanshah]

What can I say. I was thinking of a fox when I wrote my previous reply.

[Osman Shahanshah]

Not so. If I hunt a fox I do not deny that it is a fox. I do not deny its existance as a fox, that was a fox that it is a fox and that it will continue to be a fox. A fox is a fox, even as a dead fox. Edited by: Osman Shahanshah  at: 9/19/05 10:40