MCS International Liaison

[Austi Scot]

Hey – The MCS (Micronational Cartography Society) has given me a job and a title - MCS International Liaison.Your nation is listed as a member nation so I’m contacting you.You probably have these links but here they are again.The MCS forum: - pub114.ezboard.com/fmicro...48264frm15 The current political map: http://www.geocities.com/apollos...tical.html The current physical map: http://www.geocities.com/apollos...sical.html The current natural resources map: http://www.geocities.com/apollos...ource.html The website of the MCS: http://www.geocities.com/apollos...index.html My job is basically to keep up on member nations – are they active (3 month policy) – see policy #5 on the website, notify you of changes in policy, talk to you about who’s on the map and where with how much land – things like that, along with talking with you about projects with which the MCS is involved. A current project is establishing an e-mail list. So if you, or anyone from your nation wants to be on that list please get your e-mail address to us – post it here, or in the MCS forum, or e-mail it to me at austi_scot@hotmail.com One future project being talked about right now is international economics – so let me begin with a few questions.Does your nation have an economy set up? Is it active?If so, would please tell me a little bit about it?If not, are you considering the idea – in the near future or sometime down the road?If and when you have an economy set up are you interested in international economic activity with other nations on the MCS map? Another topic of discussion is whether or not the MCS should have a panel of member nations to do various things.What are your nations views on the panel idea?What do you see this panel doing? Suggestions range from being an advisory panel with no decision making authority to limited decision making authority on given issues, to sort of a planning commission for things like an international economy or international sports league or other matters.How do you see this panel being set up? _ Most suggestions are from 3 to 7 members on a rotating basis. I’ll check back here every so often to see if you have responded to any of this. If you wish to contact me you can post in the MCS forum or e-mail me at austi_scot@hotmail.comAusti ScotMCS International Liaison

[Harvey the Blue]

Since the mumified remains of Scott, our minister of the exterior, are being preserved elsewhere, I will give you my unofficial answers that the rest of the country probably agrees with.Does your nation have an economy set up? Is it active?Yes, and no. See below for details.If so, would please tell me a little bit about it?The economy is based off of real-life currency. You can see Erik's reports on minting coins elsewhere. So far he has not had a lot of success.If not, are you considering the idea – in the near future or sometime down the road?We are considering the idea of a fictional online-based economy, but all signs point to "no" for a while.If and when you have an economy set up are you interested in international economic activity with other nations on the MCS map?I suppose. It is not a big deal to us, I do not think.---What are your nations views on the panel idea?Good idea, I suppose.What do you see this panel doing?The panel would be seperate from the actual cartographers. (i.e. the people that put nations on the map) The panel would be around to settle land disputes and complaints, and generally act as a "public office" for the MCS. In a perfect world, they would never do anything.And they should have some RULES, darn it! Posted rules that everyone on the MCS map agrees to! No whining about decisions and breaking away to start alternate maps that fail after five days, darn it!How do you see this panel being set up?The rotating nation idea is a good one, although I think there should be a permanent member: one of the cartographers. How the panel rotates and which cartographer sits on it does not matter to me as long as they all agree on it. Harvey SteffkeJadie's Lesser HalfSaves the worldProud bearer of the Shirerothian Silver Sword Award and Imperial Star

[UEC]

Well.. I had a 5 member panel set up.. 3 national representative, rotated. the Editor-N-chief and the Chief Cartographer. I thought that gave administration and the cartographers of the MCS say in matters and allowed for nations to abitrate or whatever.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Austi Scot]

Thanks, I'll check back every so often to see what is said about this stuff.Austi

[Austi Scot]

To Shireroth The following list of places are on the MCS map colored in red – which would appear to mean they are political sub-divisions of Shireroth, and they are marked out like a Duchy or Barony like other places on the map. I wasn’t able to find a forum for these places but perhaps they don’t rise to that level in Shireroth. Would you please let us know if you consider these places to be a part of Shireroth?The main reason I ask is because soon I am going to start looking for nations to join the MCS map and right now I’m attempting to find places where these new nations might be located. Here’s the list:Barony of VervollkommnungLesser AtteraMuad’dibIsle of BenaciaFlorenciaMiriothLesser AutomaticaDuchy of JarisCamericaMonlanGwyndorNew North EnglandSaskbertaThe MidlandsNorfolkRaynor IslesAlso, the places listed below have a forum on your board but I can’t find them on the map. Could you tell us where they’re located?Barony Of StraylightBarony of Hyperborea Can you help straighten this information out for the MCS?Austi

[UEC]

Qua?I don't recognize some of those names... like "New north england" or whatever.. you sure you got the right name?I know the Shireroth stuff on the map is accurate. I made sure of it back in the day, so unless you guys tweeked our holdings.. which would proly anger many people... What's on the map is correct.. Hyperborea is that isle north/west of Treesia.. Straylight is in the ocean.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Gryphon the Pure]

Erik, these are my guesses to most of them, I'd like you to check, because I'm just going by geography here...Barony of Vervollkommnung - Is now gone, but the land still belongs to Kildare. It was previously known as New Jasonia, so if you want you can change the name back.Lesser Attera - Simply a region in Kildare. Keep it labeled.MuadÂ’dib - Simply a region in Yardistan. Keep it labeled.Isle of Benacia - Simply a region in Yardistan. Keep it labeled.Florencia - More Yardistan... Keep it labeled.Mirioth - You guessed it... Yardistani. Keep it labeled.Lesser Automatica - A region in Elwynn. Keep it labeled.Duchy of Jaris - I really don't know what to do with this... it's still Shirithian, I believe, just not called Jaris anymore...Camerica - never knew we had this...Monlan - ditto...Gwyndor - again, unknown...New North England - this whole region is news to me...Saskberta - dunnoThe Midlands - where did we get all this?Norfolk - Region in Schlangen. Keep as is.Raynor Isles - Region in Schlangen. Keep as is.Again, this is unofficial information, Erik is your man for IRS geography, I believe. We also have a really old map of what we had back in the day, and I'm pretty sure we still have everything on it, if you want to take a look, it's at irs.port5.com/images/shiremap.gif Raised by a family of Griffins in the forests of Llanowar, this young mage is rumored to be the sole male born of the Serra tribe.

[Mikol Rugal]

Jaris is I think merged into Lothlaria. I wouldn't worry about it too much.Camerica, Monlan, Gwyndor, New North England, Saskberta, and the Midlands are all former Mondesian territories that we got after we annexed the Mondesias (or did we only annex South Mondesia? I forget.) I don't think any of us care very much about them anymore, but Scooter might want to keep them on the map for sentimental reasons. These never became part of any Duchy or Barony because they were supposed to become a new Duchy with Scooter at the head but he wasn't really interested and we just forgot about the place mostly.Auk! Someone deleted Straylight! It's in the strait between Goldshire and Kildare and Yardistan. Edited by: Mikol Rugal at: 8/10/03 12:42 pm

[UEC]

Yes.... Jaris is in Loth.. and so is the Mondesias...I think I put that into effect.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[UEC]

We need to shrink Shirlan on the map.... When I put it on there it was its own nation.. but now it's just a county.. so it needs to be shrunk... I believe the old MCS forum might have the original land request. I think that it should be used.. it's pretty small. but adequete.. and what they originally wanted.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Gryphon the Pure]

wasn't it just a couple little islands off Loth? Raised by a family of Griffins in the forests of Llanowar, this young mage is rumored to be the sole male born of the Serra tribe.

[Mattlore Devious]

Quote:Duchy of Jaris - I really don't know what to do with this... it's still Shirithian, I believe, just not called Jaris anymore...Camerica - never knew we had this...Monlan - ditto...Gwyndor - again, unknown...New North England - this whole region is news to me...Saskberta - dunnoThe Midlands - where did we get all this?Its all part of Loth...MuHaHaHaHa... Camerica and Saskberta were once seperate nations, quite important micro-monde ones too :P Gwyndor was the seat of the North Mondesian King, NNE and Midlands were both other regions of South Mondesia. And Monlan was an island from an earlier Nation of Pete's. Just cuz you guys don't know your mm history...much the same as I don't follow much Apollo stuff

[UEC]

WEll than.. it is solved.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[j2ri]

we were only recently made aware of this marvelous map. Rather than rehash our communication with the MCS, please review the following link:pub114.ezboard.com/fmicro...D=13.topicWe only wish to discuss here the territories marked in red. We hold Jaris by right of conquest. Our late uncle was the last President of Jaris. We would yield that up only to Joseph, the Grand Duke Regis of Philban, or his lawful heirs should such be found.Cognito & Lac Glacei are our patrimony, the realm of our forefathers since the mid 1500s. You do not seem to have any mention of them on your forums.In this uncertain world, it is always best to ask if it be better to gain an ally and friend in the House of Stuart-Bonaparte-Kahunamea. The loyalty of our House may be testified to by Mr. Siskind, who long ago was representative of Audentior (before whom all mortals tremble) first ally and friend of our dearest uncle and predecessor, Jacobus I.Our House hopes for the continuance of our friendly relations and an amicable settlement of this error.In Peace,Jacobus II,By the Grace of God and the Voices of the Peoples, Emperor of Cognito & Lac Glacei, of Rulczentia, of all the Cyberias, in Absentia, King of all the Ma'alaanje, Grand Duke of Jaris, Protector of Cocoanut Grove, I.M.M. Edited by: j2ri at: 8/14/03 5:12 pm

[Scott Alexander]

Hello Jake. I'm Foreign Minister here, so I'll be the one responding to your requests.The Republic of Shireroth IS the lawful heir of Joseph, Grand Duke of Philban. Duke Whittaberg willed both Jaris and the Imperium of Cognito and Lac Glacei to be given to Shireroth in the Late Tymarian Period, after your uncle, Jacobus I, willed the Imperium to him. Kaiser Meskan I has explicitly forbidden me to offer away these territories, as they have been a part of Shireroth for years. However, I do believe we can cooperate in this business. I have convinced the Kaiser to offer you the Shirerithian noble title of Count of Cognito and Lac Glacei if you join us. Further, if you can find another citizen of the territories to satisfy some legal restrictions (and your uncle's friend Theo comes to mind) then we can promote you to a Baron and make C+LG a full Barony with national voting priviledges. This will not conflict with your title as Emperor of the rest of your realm, and will give you pretty much absolute power over the realms' domestic affairs.I do respect the amount of time we have worked together and hope we can come to an amicable conclusion on this matter. Since everything is but an apparition, having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst out in laughter. - Longchenpa

[j2ri]

Jake II, s'il vous plait. It's code, you know- (JAcobus King And Emperor)We will consider this matter over the weekend. You have our solemn word that we shall make no aggressive moves against Shireroth at this time. I am not my late uncle, and don't want to fire up the battleships for no reason.. We will post the proof of our occupation of Jaris, Thus:pub63.ezboard.com/btherepublicofjaris but this can be peacefully negotiated. One of the reasons our capital territory (Absentia) is located in Puritania is that we have always had a fascination with the idea of the old Holy Roman Empire (which was none of the above), but the idea of having various territories with varying levels of authority sounds interesting, texturing if you will. I would like to see that will..........I will give your regards to the Grand Duke. He is semi-retired, writing a history of our people.PAX,Jacobus II,Emperor of various things. Edited by: j2ri at: 8/14/03 4:47 pm

[j2ri]

Hey, we don't have to wait 'till Monday. We'll take the deal - if - Theo (who still commands the pink atomic-powered blimps of the Ducal Jarisian Air Force) gets to be Balliff or Sherriff or some-such of Jaris.Jacobus II,Watch this space.

[UEC]

I guess that would be up to you and your Baron/duke.. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Mattlore Devious]

Howdy, I'm the Duke of Lothlaria, you can appoint your own Sheriff as Baron of Jaris, so sure he can be it

[HIH Noseworthy]

Camerica, Monlan, Gwyndor, New North England, Saskberta, and the Midlands are all former Mondesian territories that we got after we annexed the Mondesias (or did we only annex South Mondesia? I forget.) I don't think any of us care very much about them anymore, but Scooter might want to keep them on the map for sentimental reasons. These never became part of any Duchy or Barony because they were supposed to become a new Duchy with Scooter at the head but he wasn't really interested and we just forgot about the place mostly.

If memory serves....North Mondesia broke away from South Mondesia and then later rejoined...I thought that the Mondesia's became a part of Lothlaria? I was told at the time that it would be located in Lothlaria or something like that....

[Mattlore Devious]

That's my Understanding too, they're part of Lothlaria...

[Ari Rahikkala]

Quote:We need to shrink Shirlan on the map.... When I put it on there it was its own nation.. but now it's just a county.. so it needs to be shrunk... I believe the old MCS forum might have the original land request. I think that it should be used.. it's pretty small. but adequete.. and what they originally wanted..Have a look at the map room at shirlan.cjb.net ... the islands and the peninsula are there on the MCS map (they're pretty much correctly scaled, even), the only problem is that the nation itself is way too big (in the political map)... I'm going to handle this myself, but ask for an OK from ARIadnEL000 or any DL of his before messing with Shirlanian affairs... I'll include changing Shirlan into Shirerothian territory and marking it a county in the request, too. Though they go mad they shall be sane,Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again;Though lovers be lost love shall not;And death shall have no dominion.

[UEC]

Ok. As Duke of Brookshire I approve of this. As Steward.. I'm not sure what I can say on the Matter.. as MiniTrade.. I have no jurisdiction..hehe As Owner of the MCS, I'm staying out of it. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.