Forum Colors

[vasroixe]

Does anyone else here find the colors on these forums difficult to read?I have myopia and have to wear contact lense which dry out often. To read the words on posts in these forums I have to squint, which gives me a headache and often times cause me to skim over posts rather than reading them in their entirity.I'm sure colorblind people would have serious trouble with these forums also. The colors are dark and don't have enough contrast. There are various high-contrast color schemes or at least color schemes that are easier to the eye that Shireroth could use. Examples of these optimal color combinations maybe be found the standard Windows Appearance control panel. I'm sure something that is inbetween very aesthetically-pleasing and very easy to read can be found.Truly,mbasil

[Delphi]

I don't find them hard to read, but I do see the point. Is there any option for different themes (per-user) for ezboards, or is it one theme for everyone?

[Nick Foghorn Leghorn]

Must we have this discussion every month? ________________It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.-Andrew Jackson

[AngelGuardian93]

This thread is cursed. I wash my hands of it. And everyone else would be wise to as well. There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[Nick Foghorn Leghorn]

*runs over to silver basin and washes hands* ________________It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.-Andrew Jackson

[Lachlan Powers]

I was wondering how long Delphi would be able to put up with these forums for ejen ranti taicardainre (Lachlan Powers)The Grand Commonwealth - Aerlig - MNN - Treesia - mncentre - EIFA - Lemuria

[Delphi]

I quite like the fora. It's not Antica, but I can handle a change every once in a while... *looks around* Yes, I can!

[Lachlan Powers]

I give you a week before you are howling from the top of the Landsraad for phpBB forums ejen ranti taicardainre (Lachlan Powers)The Grand Commonwealth - Aerlig - MNN - Treesia - mncentre - EIFA - Lemuria

[Delphi]

I haven't dealt with ezboards in a while, but it doesn't make as much difference to me as a non-administrator. I'll start howling if another huge downage happens again (in which data is lost) but until then I think I'll be good.

[Hypatia Agnesi]

With regards to the colorblind, I believe that James (Fax Celestis) would be the best one to consult on how hard it is to read the fora. If I remember correctly, he changed the shade of red for unred links last time, and that was it.And I agree, this thread is cursed. We do have this discussion frequently, and no one is ever satisfied fully with the results. It seems that no one (myself included) can ever agree on a nice red and blue color scheme, and there are always cries (including from myself) when we try other colors.All I can really think of changing that would (hopefully) be minimally controversial would be to lighten the shade of the text a bit, to provide better contrast. I've found that changing it to pure white hurts my eyes, though. Oddly, both white-on-color and color-on-white schemes hurt my eyes if I'm reading them too long. *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!

[vasroixe]

These are the replies I was expecting. Yes, I know this is a subject that may have come up before, and before, and before, and may well come up again, and again, and again.The fact is that scientific studies show that it is easier for visually disabled people to read text on screens that use certain color combinations. I will cite them for you here so you can know how to agree with my facts:http://www.tiresias.org/reports/atm.htm ... 0340.htmlI hope we continue this discussion about Forum Colors. I have a feeling like I know why previous discussions failed: lack of aesthetic balance with functionality. In the case of forum colors, I think functionality (the readibility of the text on the screen to a wider number of people with various conditions--ranging from normal to visually-disabled) CAN be balanced with aesthetics.Also, instead of taking just one or two people's opinions on the forum colors, which for all we know might be influenced by a favorite childhood toy or even synthesesia. I think we should look at scientific studies.As for Delphi's ominous pro-phpBB presence, I must say I know Delphi well and I know phpBB well and so I know what Delphi is thinking. But I don't think Shireroth would reap the maximum benefits of phpBB at this time, since Shirerithians are notoriously conservative about maintaining the general appearance of things when there is no harm in doing so. There's good reason, too. How else does a Shirerithian assert his independence (or her independence) ?Matthew

[Scott of Hyperborea]

The Temple of Lumina now has text in white, if anyone wants to see how it looks.I'm sad that after Moose left our plan of testing out a phpBB board never materialized. I'd love to try that out again sometime later when other affairs are less hectic. Edited by: Scott of Hyperborea  at: 12/4/05 22:27

[Delphi]

Why do we need to wait for Moose to try something like that?

[Scott of Hyperborea]

We don't. Moose is gone. We were going to have him set it up, and then he left, and other things got in the way.

[Delphi]

So it's just a matter of picking it back up again...

[Ari Rahikkala]

Malarbor's grip is powerful, but there are things in this world that are greater than a mere Tree-god... such as userContent.css. Create it with, say, Notepad, in the subdirectory chrome of your Firefox profile directory (see http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/edit for instructions on how to find it) and put this line in it:body[shireroth] * { color: black !important; background-color: white !important; background-image: none !important; }Restart Firefox and ta-da, black-on-white Shireroth. The league of sadistic telepaths: "There's someone in your head and it's not you"

[Ari Rahikkala]

Or, if you are using Firefox 1.5 and want to make sure that your forum colours will stay even if some future MiniInt decides to remove that little hack I once asked to put in to compensate for a limitation in earlier versions of Firefox... put this in instead:@-moz-document url-prefix(http://p211.ezboard.com/bshireroth) { * { color: black !important; background-color: white !important; background-image: none !important; } }@-moz-document url-prefix(http://p211.ezboard.com/fshireroth) { * { color: black !important; background-color: white !important; background-image: none !important; } } The league of sadistic telepaths: "There's someone in your head and it's not you"

[UEC]

I echo.. must we do this every months... We can't make EVERYONE happy.. we've proven that... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Hypatia Agnesi]

Ari, I couldn't get that to work, using either method. Shireroth still looks exactly the same. I'm using 1.5 at the moment.Any idea why? *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!

[Hypatia Agnesi]

Ok, problem resolved.It turns out that simply looking at my folders was not enough to find C:/Documents and Settings/[my name]/Application Data, because it's apparently hidden. You have to use Start -> Run "%AppData%" to get to the correct folder, but then it's simply a matter of following the rest of the instructions.I can report that it does make the forum all black-on-white, which I find rather visually offensive. However, if that is the color scheme you find most readable, I recommend doing this. I'm sure switching out colors would be relatively simple as well, say to a very light grey background. *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!

[david northworthy beckfor]

I think a link to Ari's suggestion should be stickeied, so as to make sure that those who need it, know about it. thus eliminating the reincarnating thread

[AngelGuardian93]

Good idea David. Make a seperate thread and a moderator will sticky it. There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[vasroixe]

Quote:Ok, problem resolved.It turns out that simply looking at my folders was not enough to find C:/Documents and Settings/[my name]/Application Data, because it's apparently hidden. You have to use Start -> Run "%AppData%" to get to the correct folder, but then it's simply a matter of following the rest of the instructions.I can report that it does make the forum all black-on-white, which I find rather visually offensive. However, if that is the color scheme you find most readable, I recommend doing this. I'm sure switching out colors would be relatively simple as well, say to a very light grey background. That is a great idea (the process, not necessarily the colors you chose). I will try it out myself. It would be cool if there were a program that could do the changing, so people didn't have to do any hacking.

[Delphi]

I would suspect there might be an extension for Firefox that'd make it a lot easier. You might want to look around for one.

[osmose1000]

p211.ezboard.com/fshirero...=246.topicOf specific interest is the link to the EZBoard->phpBB converter. They call it a signature, but no one ever signs their posts...

[Adanufgail]

I know I'm new, but I thought of adding my 2 cents anyway. I happen to like the colors, although they do take a little while to get used to.At least it's a lot better than many of the other forums I visit with aaaaaa (very very very dark gray) text on 000000 (black) backgrounds

[vasroixe]

Having attempted with no success to make my browser display the colors in a more readable way for me, I have decided to support a change of the forum colors.I think the changes could be made gradually so not everyone is offended all at once.I know there are maybe one or two people who might leave Shireroth if a color on a webpage becomes slightly lighter than it used to be, and I know there are maybe one or two people who might collapse of a heart attack at the site of a wheelchair ramp.Shireroth is a really cool place, and I enjoy participating. I think the community should have a larger say in technical matters, but I think there should also be protections for those with special needs.

[Hypatia Agnesi]

Vasroixe, please IM me some time and I can walk you through the steps of making Ari's suggestion work. If it is a matter of not being able to make the color combinations look good, a forum color change won't help that either. If it is a matter of implementing the changes on your own computer, it is something I can help you with.AIM: Hypatia Agnesi 2 or little ribbit 2003Yahoo: hypatia_agnesi *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!