Archetype23 - My Apology

[ProdigalSon523]

Dear Micronation participants,Many of you will not remember me or even know who I am. I can't remember all of what I did while in the micronational scene because I was on heavy pain medication (Methadone, as well as a few others) and a spinal cord muscle relaxer (zanaflex). For this reason I can't recall all of the events and I tried to brush up on them but it seems EZ Board has sabotaged most of the forums.. preventing me from knowing my own history, and the history of the nations that have come up/fell since I left.I have spoken out strongly against my past practices and behavior, in a Christian blog (some of you may know about it). Specifically the use of psi and other such nonsensical arts. I do not believe they are real, and blame such psychotic beliefs on group think and powerful drugs I was on at the time.I was a shrewd tactician and manipulator and generally got what I wanted out of the simulated nations. I however had a tendency to make enemies because of my tactics. I was a very polarizing figure. Those who did become my friends knew my deep sense of loyalty so it isn't to say I did not have redeeming qualities. It's just that they were few. I don't write all this as an excuse for my behavior but an explanation, take it or leave it.To all those who I hurt I apologize. I wish to name some people who deserve a personal apology in my opinion. This doesn't mean they don't owe me and others an explanation, I'm just doing my part to bury the hatchet for good. If I didn't name you and you think I owe you an apology let me know.Sirithil Nos Feanor: You created a vibrant nation, had situations been different we together could have kept that nation vibrant. Instead of alienating each other and becoming enemies forcing our friends to take sides, and ultimately leading to your abuse of ezboard powers that split both nations allowing the project to fail. Edit: I know that doesn't sound very apologetic man, but I am sorry. Your name deserves to be mentioned. That was one of our dumber moments in history. I say our because I somehow made you feel you had to do it.Abbas Namvari: For not keeping in touch with you during my transition out of the military. You where a great friend and I want you to know you are still in my prayers brothers. God blessBill: I didn't treat you with respect and dignity.. Please forgive me and I hope your projects that you pursued after I left turned out all right.Harvey: I don¡¦t remember your full name sorry but the blue haired fellow. For always taking your posts the wrong way, we never clicked and always seemed at ends. I wish we both had been more patient with each other. I hope you like Bill had much success with your projects.Kaiser: I do not know if you are still the Kaiser of Shireroth and what your name is now/then. But you lead Shireroth at the time I was part of this simulation. I just want to say to you I'm sorry we couldn't see eye to eye and misunderstood each other a lot. I was to prideful to admit when I was wrong.Warvoid: For leaving you with the burden of running Menelmacar when I was going through all those back procedures. You were definitely a loyal friend. Peace to you.Those I believe are the people I probably did most harm too I honestly can't remember all that took place. I think the more I read on the forums the more that I'll remember and the more people I'll owe an apology. Most likely (and hopefully) nobody remembers me and is forced to look through archives to make sense of this post that would be ideal. Either way this isn't me saying I plan to be part of the micronational scene, but consider me a harmless observer. Peace to you all,AdamFormerly known as: Archetype23Former Prefect of Justice under Sirithil Nos FeanorFormer Governor of Teir¡¦Dal under Warvoid.Former Cult Leader ¡§The Path of Yellow¡¨Former Idp. Opinion Author.Former Leader of Collective UnconsciousFormer Elenaran of The Imperium of MenelmacarEdited by: ProdigalSon523 at: 6/4/05 2:34Please note: I posted this here as well because Sirithil informed me that she was banned from Babkha and if I posted on both, everyone who's mentioned should be able to read it. I hope you don't mind because if I remember correctly I was banned here.

[Ciaron Broeck]

You made friends as well as enemys. You are missed. The Cylch Trafod - Breuddwyd's Official Online Forum

[Kaiser Alejian I]

You just never know who's going to pop up around here do you?Well, though I am the current Kaiser, I was not the kaiser (or actually around) during any of the chaos during your tenure as a micronationalist. my name is Gman Russell, or as I was known back in the FIoJ, Gman Pinky. I was around for the start of the apollo sector, but foolishly believed I could escape and left for the end of FIoJ and all of Menalmacar (so you may or may not have heard of me). So I am a bit foggy on what you did or how it happened, but either way you owe me specificly no apology, so trouble yourself not. Though there are proly some past kaisers who would like to see this. Either way, it's nice to see people (hopefully) change for the better. Good luck with your future enterprises.

[ProdigalSon523]

Kaiser,Do I have permission to post here? I was banned by the other Kaiser under my name Archetype23 when he had a dispute. I think the Kaisers name was Eric but I don't want to say that for sure.. because I'm not sure.

[Johanns V]

Archetype, I never expected to see you again!This is Robert Belci with my new name and login. I realize we fell out near the end of Menelmacar, mostly over the way Archiemacar was being run, but I want you to know that I did value your friendship, no matter what you did, while it lasted. I don't think anyone in Menelmacar was blameless, and the way Sirithil was running the country made some heated dispute inevitable once the Baracaoan menace was removed. It's just too bad it happened the way it did. Waz ist wunders hie geschehenDaz ein Magt ein Kint gebarHêre übr Engel ScharWas daz niht ein Wunder gar?-Walther von der Vogelweide

[ProdigalSon523]

Nobody's hands are clean of that mess. We all made a lot of stupid mistakes. That is why I wrote this apology to clear my conscience. The others can write there own, or pretend they did nothing wrong, it doesn't matter. Sirithil and I had a nice talk yesterday, he accepted my apology, and we laughed.What else is there to do but laugh? We all played our roles Hero, Villian, Fool it just depended on the angle you looked at it. I'm trying to look at it all from outside the box.. and believe me it's funny.God Bless bro,Adam

[Ari Rahikkala]

Well, there shouldn't be too many people here anymore who never learned to get along with you...* notices Harvey getting online *OK, so maybe I'm not being quite accurate . I'm not looking forward to what Bill will say when he finds this thread... Jag har glömt hur pjäserna stod!

[ProdigalSon523]

Hello Dolphin Lover, I visited the Chaocracy but I noticed it too was pretty inactive. To bad a lot of silliness there, enough for everyone. I sent Bill a message over AIM informing him I had made this post. He can view it/respond at his own leisure as can Harvey (who signed off) before I could send him a link.Hopefully they can take this post for what it is..Peace to you,Adam

[Harvey the Blue]

Quote:* notices Harvey getting online *I'm not about to stir up old blood. The events of Menelmacar have finally passed into myth and legend, and there is a whole generation that probably thinks we are making most of it up.I don't really want to talk too much about it. All I'm going to say is, apology accepted. Harvey SteffkeSai'Kar's Memories LiveJournal - ranting about Shirerothian issues since fall 2004.

[Scott of Hyperborea]

It is nice to see you again, and even better to know that the many problems of bygone ages are now a thing of the past. At the risk of causing heart attacks in some of our formerly Menelmacari citizens - stick around a while. "Whenever I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my revolver." - Herman Goering

[ProdigalSon523]

Thank you Harvey. And thanks Scott, I hope it doesn't pain anybody to much to have me posting. I plan to be writing some articles on Menelmacar, and I hope that with the EZ Board restoration that I can write a more complete history. (I remember mostly events, not names/dates..) Maybe I'll post the complete articles here, or on my website either way I'll appreciate peer critism from others who 'lived' through those days.LOL @ This Emoticon (You sinners) That's not how I remember things going down God Bless,Adam

[Harvey the Blue]

*double post smited* Harvey SteffkeSai'Kar's Memories LiveJournal - ranting about Shirerothian issues since fall 2004.Edited by: Harvey the Blue  at: 6/4/05 14:25

[RicLyon]

Amazing to see you again. Wow...!Yeah, you _are_ missed. You did some great things. Made things interesting.How are you? Are you better now?Wow... Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Scott of Hyperborea]

What is your website? "Whenever I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my revolver." - Herman Goering

[ProdigalSon523]

Siskind, http://www.jehovahnissi.net There is nothing of interest on it now, I removed the blog/forum and plan to resurrect it soon with the following items.1. Religious Opinions 2. Political Opinions 3. My nation State 4. Clan info for "Conker: Live and reloaded" for x-box 5. A movie Studio 6. And Menelmacari History/Articles related to it.Ric Lyon, Great to see you there man. Why don't you send me an AIM(ProdigalSon523)? I hope all is going well for you. You still being swedish? God Bless,Adam

[RicLyon]

Actually, no Moved to the west, in the UK now. Heh. You take care of yourself Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

[Bill3000]

No one had forgotten you at all, for the better or worse. Your legacy for the most part is still here, I'd think. That icon, for one. Hehe (I found it on another forum and used it in the OAM as propaganda, and I take it Erik took it as well.) That, and probably a bit of Shireroth's aminosity for Babkha now (Well, me and Joe, probably, but that's enough of Shireroth to count )Actually, I had never seen you apologize before, and this enough is plain for me to see that it's sincere. I accept your apology.Part of the problem I think I had with Yellowism was that it wasn't really meant to be serious, while Soloralism, which I had worked hard on in Menelmacar, was actually meant to be a bit more serious, as it had some macronational religious qualities as well and was more of a hobby than a subhobby of micronationalism. But whatever. The past is the past, and this grudge I'm willing to slide. Menelmacar. Bah. We had so much potential back then, and we all ruined it. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'As for... Quil, to be honest many of us have wondered about [him] for some time now. The real question might be why he LEFT the lance there.' - Areania, on how Quillan (Bill in EQ1) let Trombonius 'sit' on his lance"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[ProdigalSon523]

Bill,Thanks for accepting the apology. And I want to clarify one piece for you the creation of yellowism was not to step on your beliefs as a Solarist. It was an extension of a discordian hobby Keith and I had at the time.. and a long running joke held by the followers prior to us entering micronations. I hope that helps you understand.Either way it was a blasphemous creation.. fun for laughs though and I don't plan on making any micro-cults ever again. I'm Christian now by the way, and even pretending to worship a fake banana stinks of idolatry.God Bless you,Adam

[ProdigalSon523]

Ric Lyon,Well that's ok to I suppose. But that's still east for me, west is the Pacific ocean :-P Take care of yourself too man. Peace Man,Adam

[david northworthy beckfor]

hi, probably dont know me (turned up in the sector around time of the the election, went on the boards of both menalmacars for a while till they dropped away....my names david northworthy beckford...)nice to see the ancient ones poping up...I used to blame you for all evils, but that was just bias learned from others *points at mari greenwood*still..come back! and do great evile!*good luck with what your doing now*or good works if you must

[Harvey the Blue]

Quote:(I found it on another forum and used it in the OAM as propaganda, and I take it Erik took it as well.)No. I petition one of the Kaisers (I think it was Aurefiction) to add it to the list so that we would never forget about Menelmacar. And then we all promptly did, of course. Harvey SteffkeSai'Kar's Memories LiveJournal - ranting about Shirerothian issues since fall 2004.

[Stjepan Veliki]

Quote:I visited the Chaocracy but I noticed it too was pretty inactive. To bad a lot of silliness there, enough for everyone.There is still *some* activity. We have one thread in the off topic where people still post regularly in an effort of supreme stubbornness to the idea of letting the place die. Also had a couple other recent threads, but with the recent great ezboard fuckup, it was pretty much all lost. Edited by: Stjepan Veliki at: 6/4/05 17:49

[ProdigalSon523]

Quote:And then we all promptly did, of course. Of course.

[ProdigalSon523]

Quote:There is still *some* activity. We have one thread in the off topic where people still post regularly in an effort of supreme stubbornness to the idea of letting the place die. Also had a couple other recent threads, but with the recent great ezboard fuckup, it was pretty much all lost. That is really too bad. I enjoyed the nonsensical bantering and insane rantings of the few members. But I always feared Spetz took it seriouslly.. heh. nice seeing you again Stjepan.

[Kaiser Alejian I]

Oh thats right... you were banned... eh, as long as you dont cause trouble I suppose a second chance is in order, on the condition no one minds. I think that would be appropriate enough. Good day.

[ProdigalSon523]

LOL don't worry I never caused trouble here the first time around. :-P I just banned the Kaiser (Erik was his name Scott told me for sure) in my nation, and he did the same to me in his. All is fair.

[Bill3000]

Speaking of which, mind unbanning me in Archimacar? I'll do the same for you in the Sirimacar forums. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/5/05 15:15

[ProdigalSon523]

Bill,I'd be happy too if I still had my old EZ board account. But from what I understand Pathfollower was the last EZ OP and he closed down the forums I think. I'm able visit OAM because this name isn't banned, but I appreciate the offer.

[Shyriath]

Ah! Another old breach of the Menelmacari conflicts healed (I hope).It was toward the beginning of the division into Sirimacar/Archiemacar (or perhaps a bit before; I'm not entirely certain) that I first stumbled into this general region of the micronational world, and I thought it one of the saddest things I'd seen... partly for reasons of fandom toward Tolkienish things (a thing that affected which side I had sympathy for, I'm afraid ), partly because of the bad blood it was causing.Archie... or Adam, if you prefer... you likely don't remember me; I lurked without posting much of the time. But I watched events as closely as I could in those days, and I admit to having an unfavorable impression of you. I apologize for this, for what it's worth; your wish to set things right show you as more than I had thought you were.Welcome back.

[ProdigalSon523]

Those of you who have any idea who I was, know that I love writing stories, that aspect of my character has not changed. That is why I want to get all the Menelmacari history secured for good once this Great Purge (or whatever you are calling it) is corrected. I had written some fairly decent stories.. anyways since you don't have those.. this story may make no sense. Either way I provide it for your viewing. I hope it entertains you.http://www.jehovahnissi.net/micr...n/Lost.htmBy the way the fictional nation mentioned at the end of the story is part of an internet game I just started to toy with. (Suprisingly Sirithil recommended it, and it is pretty funny.)Peace,Adam Edited by: ProdigalSon523 at: 6/6/05 0:51