Preliminary Hearing: Imperial Republic v. Quxark

[Malliki]

Just to calm down Jake and everyone, this is just a preliminary hearing. I wish to hear from the general populace, as well as from certain office holders and members of the Mango Bar, their views on the actions of "Quxark" and if they can be considered to be "spamming". If so, he could be charged with terrorism.

But again, this is just a preliminary hearing. Partly to give me something to do as well.

So, the word is free as we say.

[Bacchus]

He mentioned Dionysus in one of his posts, so I believe he's probably just a poor guy that can't properly interpret the message of the god.

However, from a more objective point of view, I would not call this spam. Or if it is, it certainly isn't malicious, and to punish something that lacks malicious intent would be overzealous and wrong. Someone posting messages in a really small, blue font with a stutter (or is it meant to be correcting spelling mistakes? I don't know) is barely even noticable.

[Malliki]

A most valid point. I'm just so freakin' bored so I need something to do.

[Bacchus]

Don't, don't, DON'T say that. Why don't you just say it clear as day: "Jake, please make trouble!"

[Malliki]

I don't have to. He always causes trouble anyway. Perhaps I should charge him with something... Just for fun.

[Ari Rahikkala]

FWIW Quxark is posting from the same IP address as Austi recently.

I'm holding out hope zie's a different person though, because if so, Quxark is exactly the right one to be Count of Blavatsky now that I'm starting to maybe have some kind of a vague idea what I want out of it (read: Whatever Quxark will provide ).

[Malliki]

I know. Good for Austi that he's found something he likes to do.

[Jacobus Loki]

Don't, don't, DON'T say that. Why don't you just say it clear as day: "Jake, please make trouble!"

(Loki appears in a cloud of smoke)

Cough....Cough....Cough....

Ahem.

You rang?

The Judex is correct in attempting to eschew boredom, or September,

http://www.shireroth.org/shirewiki/September

as we used to called it. However, since the current Kaiser used to speak in ALL CAPS, AND A GUD FREND OV MYNE TAKS LIK THIZ, I think that our new friend Quxark
talking like this should not even be of more than a smile and a passing interest.

If indeed the IP matches Austi's , this is mere circumstance. I knew several fellows who used to live in or under trees. They used to post at the library, or from an office, and literally lots of people could be posting from that IP.

In fact, there are 17 entities leaning over my shoulder trying to take the keybard out of my hands as we speak.

Pardon me a moment.

(Crashing, banging noises followed by muffled shouts and screams.)

We now return you to our judical system.

(column of smoke forms, followed by coughing, followed by......)

[Leo Fenrir]

to punish something that lacks malicious intent would be overzealous and wrong

But there is an inherent flaw with this statement. Someone could do something he or she considers right or morally good but in other's views their actions could be evil. It is important, especially in law, to distinguish motives and actions, as the two are more often then not, contradictory or incomprehensibly related.

But if it is a law suit you are looking for then I should inform you that I have been considering weather or not to take legal action against the Duke of Elwynn for monetary compensation for the neglect of his duchy under the pretenses of: kidnapping or possession.

Oh and jake, consider yourself officially hired. Details of certain jobs I may have for you will be sent by PM which you can accept or decline at your discretion.

[Kaiseress Anandja I]

I believe that we should love Quxark for the person he is. He may be a bit misguided, he might even look a bit too far down the bottle, but I believe that he is good at heart. He needs guidance, not a law suit.

Peace and Love,

Anandja

[Leo Fenrir]

My god.... A hippy....

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[Jacobus Loki]

Well, Steward?

[Leo Fenrir]

I'm sorry I find myself quite lacking in reading subtext and I do fear that I have missed the pertinent question you may have wished to ask.

[Kaiseress Anandja I]

I think that the wonderful Sir Jacobus is wondering if you will take action against me. I do beseech thee though, I am but a faithful servant of Shireroth, hearing the cry of the people.

[Jacobus Loki]

Oy Vey.

[Allot]

But if it is a law suit you are looking for then I should inform you that I have been considering weather or not to take legal action against the Duke of Elwynn for monetary compensation for the neglect of his duchy under the pretenses of: kidnapping or possession.

WHAT?
PREPARE FOR THE SMACKDOWN, STEWARD
As Jacobus said
Khan! Bring me my crap-hammer!

[Leo Fenrir]

PREPARE FOR THE SMACKDOWN, STEWARD

Now now lets not get ahead of ourselves here, assuming you have won before you start is first off quite pretentious of you and secondly not prudent on your behalf.

And aren't you supposed to be convulsing in a carriage halfway across Nordland right now?

[Allot]

That's why I've stopped signing my posts... you need to differentiate between my RP figure (in Elwynn) and my non-RP figure (rest of Shireroth). That's why I created William.

[Jess]

Crucify Him!

[Quxark]

"He mentioned Dionysus in one of his posts, so I believe he's probably just a poor guy that can't properly interpret the message of the god."

http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6630/ancient.html
Ancient Wines - The so-called "European grape", Vitis vinifera, originated not in Europe but in the Black Sea region, and spread from there south to the Middle East so that by 6,000 BC grape vines were being cultivated in Mesopotamia. The vinifera grape then spread east to Phoenicia and Egypt, and by 2,000 BC Phoenician sailors were ferrying grapevines across the Mediterranean Sea to Greece and beyond Although many early civilizations make reference to wine, the ancient Greeks were the first to take their grape growing and winemaking seriously The importance of wine to Greek culture is evident in that they had a god of the vine named Dionysus (later Bacchus) who oversaw the cultivation of vineyards and the merriment of drinking

Di Di Dion Dion Dionysus and Ba Bac Bacchus Bacchus are no noooo nothing but u u u usurpers 4000 ye years late

[Jacobus Loki]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, graaapesssss................ungnnnnnn

[Bacchus]

But there is an inherent flaw with this statement. Someone could do something he or she considers right or morally good but in other's views their actions could be evil. It is important, especially in law, to distinguish motives and actions, as the two are more often then not, contradictory or incomprehensibly related.

In law, this basic premise I wholeheartedly agree with, but it's a different story in micronational or more specifically Shirerithian law. Observe this statute:

1. Should anyone break a law, but do so either as part of a non-malicious act or for reasons that are obviously good ones and beneficial to the nation, they will not be considered guilty and will not be subject to the normal punishment.
2. Whether a certain incident was part of a non-malicious act or beneficial to the nation will be under the discretion of whatever judiciary bodies exist at the time the incident took place, as well as the Kaiser.

I conclude from this that it doesn't matter whether someone takes offence at an act or whatever, but the Judex and/or the Kaiser can consider that when they are deciding whether something is malicious or not. Make sense?

[Leo Fenrir]

It is a quite reasonable statement and obviously crafted to instigate activity. Just to clear it up I personally don't see anything wrong with your actions. I just can't resist a good argument.

Allot however is a different story altogether.

[Bacchus]

Uh, just so we're clear, who were you addressing in that last post? I would assume Quxark given the thread, but my ego and the context and the words make me wonder.

[Allot]

Since we no longer have an Arbiter or an Imperial Inquisitor, there is no one pressing this trial at the moment.

[Jacobus Loki]

(Appropriates large chair)

Perhaps we should present Her Niftyness with candidates for the job?

Jacobus Loki
Steward of Shireroth

[Kaiseress Anandja I]

Sadly, my dear Jacobus, you are not eligible for the job since you are my Steward. I will however make sure we have a new Arbiter as soon as possible.

[Jacobus Loki]

No, Your Niftyness, I would make a poor Arbtiter, since I reach for my Sword faster than the lawbook.

[Kaiseress Anandja I]

(Appropriates large chair)

Perhaps we should present Her Niftyness with candidates for the job?

Jacobus Loki
Steward of Shireroth

I thought that was the list, dear Jacobus.

This thread is un-stickied and the preliminary hearing closed. Quxark is free to do whatever he wants (that is reasonably legal).

[Quxark]

"reasonably legal" .... a aha ha I sha shall loo looo looooook for two th th th thi thing things