Imperial Decree #347
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- Kaiser Reynardine I
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Imperial Decree #347
By my hand,
The Prætor of the Landsraad shall be allowed a maximum of 3 citizenships.
Done this Ughday, the 6th of Vivantiana, ASC 3431
Reynardine I, the Fox Kaiser
The Prætor of the Landsraad shall be allowed a maximum of 3 citizenships.
Done this Ughday, the 6th of Vivantiana, ASC 3431
Reynardine I, the Fox Kaiser
- Gman Russell
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Fox kaiser? I just noticed that... so we've had angry kaisers, absent kaisers, tranny kaisers, and now; furry kaisers! Cheers!
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Nathan of Natopia
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Well thanks Your Niftiness 
Nathan,
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
- Jacobus Loki
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Milord Praetor-designate.
Congratulations!
There are a few legal entanglements, which can easily be handled by your resigning a non-Shirerithian citizenship, at least for the period of your tenure.
There is a long tradition of ducking and dodging in such fashion.
Warm Regards,
Jacobus Loki Kahumamea
Acting Baron of BUI.
Congratulations!
There are a few legal entanglements, which can easily be handled by your resigning a non-Shirerithian citizenship, at least for the period of your tenure.
There is a long tradition of ducking and dodging in such fashion.
Warm Regards,
Jacobus Loki Kahumamea
Acting Baron of BUI.
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Nathan of Natopia
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Yes I would have regretfully had to resign my Stormarkian citizenship, but thankfully the Kaiser has overruled the conflicting law.
Nathan,
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
- Scott of Hyperborea
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
The bad news for you is that I strongly object to the Kaiser overturning Landsraad laws just because it's convenient at the moment, especially when the laws have to do with internal Landsraad business. There's a case to be made that what you just did was unconstitutional, since statements about the Praetor naturally involve Landsraad procedures whether they're written in the Landsraad Procedures document or not.
The good news for you is that as far as I can tell, not only was the act in question never added to the Lawbook, but it doesn't even make sense: ie it claims to be modifying Chapter VII, but that's about the Judex system and has nothing to do with Praetor citizenship. Therefore, it is not legally in effect.
I have no idea why this is.
The good news for you is that as far as I can tell, not only was the act in question never added to the Lawbook, but it doesn't even make sense: ie it claims to be modifying Chapter VII, but that's about the Judex system and has nothing to do with Praetor citizenship. Therefore, it is not legally in effect.
I have no idea why this is.
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
It was passed by the Landsraad. We must now await the Arbiter, new acts of the Landsraad, etc., and twist ourselves in legal procedure, to the point where nothing is accomplished save arguing procedure. While this is questioned, all Acts of the Landsraad under this Praetorship may be questioned.
Our we can all yield to the Kaiser when convenient, er, rather, always.

Our we can all yield to the Kaiser when convenient, er, rather, always.
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Scott of Hyperborea wrote:I have no idea why this is.
Gentlemen, might I remind you that once, maybe twice in Shireroth's recent history the Lawbook has been reset. That is, a copy of the Lawbook has been located, recognised officially as the most recent complete version, and enacted as the complete law. This was done because of the Wiki issues we had way back when.Jacobus Loki wrote:It was passed by the Landsraad.
So basically, if something is not in the Lawbook but was passed by the Landsraad, there is a chance it was probably cut out that time.
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:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
Basicly, if it's not in the Lawbooks.. it doesn't exist. We lost a lot of law..
Not true. The Praetor isn't required to validate the law. We could have an illegal praetor, but all law passed during his reign is still legit. The Prætor is just the guy you officially announces the laws passed. They technically still are legal, even if he's not. Now if we required Prætor signatures, that would change things.While this is questioned, all Acts of the Landsraad under this Praetorship may be questioned.![]()
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
I've proposed an amendment to the Procedures intended to clarify that only laws in the LawBook are valid. We get this at least once a month, someone feels that someone has violated some law not in the LawBook, but the law was passed and bla bla bla bla. I'm quite irritated.
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
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Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
Fan of SOAD
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Nathan of Natopia
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Re: Imperial Decree #347
I always like to make a good first impression the first few days on the job
At least its all settled?
At least its all settled?
Nathan,
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
Prophet of the Butter Bull,
Head Missionary of the Bovic Dominion of Natopia,
Natopian Representative to the Small Commonwealth,
Member of the Roth Zera of Elwynnese Realm
Re: Imperial Decree #347
I made a ruling in the Milord Arbiter thread in the Judex. I'll move it to a separate thread.
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
Fan of SOAD
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
Fan of SOAD
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