Sketches on services, fees and tariffs

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Sketches on services, fees and tariffs

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This is the preliminary document defining the services offered by the Ministry oterior. For now, you can, and must ignore it for the purposes of actually asking me to do things, and if you try to buy anything from the list, everyone has a right to laugh at you for not reading the first paragraph of this post.

First, though, the definition of the Ministry of the Interior from the LawBook:
1. The Minister of the Interior shall be given admin over the Shireroth board, and shall use such power for the purposes of maintenance and security.
a. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior to allow public access to the information in public fora.
b. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior, and any person with access to classified fora, to keep secret any information held therein.
c. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior to take on any emergency administrative duties for security.
2. The Ministry of the Interior shall maintain any archives on the Shireroth board. They may be hidden or obscured, provided that their access complies with regulations.
a. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior to archive an additional past month of the General Discussion forum each month.
3. The Ministry of the Interior shall handle administrative requests of the Kaiser and other Ministers, provided that they comply with law and regulations.
a. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior to carry out court orders which require administrative action.
b. It is the duty of the Minister of the Interior to assign title blocks to citizens upon request, provided that they comply with regulations.
c. The Ministry of the Interior shall not be expected to carry out any administrative orders unless they are issued in the Ministry of the Interior, or the Kaisers Court, or sent to him directly.
4. The Ministry of the Interior shall maintain weekly forum database backups.
a. Backups older than a month may be removed, except for the last backup of that month. Backups older than a year, even the last backup of a month, may be removed, except for the last backup of that year.
b. Backup duty may be delegated to a trusted Shirithian citizen.
Good thing nobody reads that, because a lot of it would be outdated even for 2005 :p

So, now, the list:
STATE-SUPPORTED SERVICES

The work done by the MiniInt for these services is compensated for by bounties from the MiniTrade, and is free for the client.

- work defined in the LawBook as the ministry's duty: Administrative requests from the Kaiser or ministers, forum backups, monthly ignoring of the unnecessary archiving of general discussion
- creating and destroying forums
- setting forum permissions and moderatorships
- creating usergroups
- minor management of usergroups (for instance, initialising a group to contain the citizens of one duchy)
- converting, uploading, and configuring for display forum images
- changing forum settings (for instance, making a forum visible or not visible from the board front page)
- changing the names of forums and people
- banning spammers and troublemakers, removing spam
- board software updates
- setting permissions in the wiki, wiki software updates
- other minor administrative stuff, by the minister's discretion

PAY SERVICES

These services may have two costs. Ministerial pay means a tariff directly to the minister to compensate for his work. State pay means a tariff to the crown account, to compensate for effects caused by these services and to discourage their overuse.

- emoticons: The client submits an emoticon to add to the list of smilies. It will be added if the minister finds it appropriate (the content is OK, it's not too big or too small, it doesn't cause seizures, the file is small, etc.) it will be added. 60 erb state pay, no ministerial pay.

- links in the Malarbar: The client submits a link to add to the menu in the Malarbar (the one saying "Calendar - ShireWiki - MicroWiki" etc.). The linked word must be reasonably short. If the minister finds it appropriate (content OK, word not too long, etc.) it will be added. Space in the Malarbar is limited, of course, so the amount of ads permitted will also be... two, maybe? 20 erb state pay per week that the ad is up, no ministerial pay.

- sticky threads: Another place for ads. The client submits a thread to be stickied in general discussion or somewhere else where it's appropriate for ads to be stickied. Again, content, non-annoyance, etc. rules apply, as do the rules on ad-non-overproliferation. 15erb state pay per week, no ministerial pay.

- board styles: Negotiated. Has both a state pay and ministerial pay: State pay is 10 erb. Ministerial pay begins at 20 erb for minor changes (e.x. changing the background and maybe a couple of icons), but above that, is negotiated with the client.

- board code modifications: Negotiated. Has both a state pay and a ministerial pay: State pay is 100 erb. Ministerial pay begins at 100 erb for minor changes, but above that, is negotiated with the client. And even then it'll have to be a really good mod with an excellent reason to be in.

- finding usernames: Included for every username that's not provided in its exact form, for requests referring to at least than five usernames. 1 erb ministerial pay per name not given in its correct form, no state pay. Only billed if the ministerial tariff for a request would equal or exceed 5 erb including the bill for finding usernames, otherwise free. Example: Requesting a usergroup that should have the user b3n|<3r|\| as a member, and referring to him as benkern. Another example: Requesting a usergroup of all of the citizens in a duchy with at least ten citizens, without providing a list of citizens.

The minister may refuse to provide any service for lack of time and, well, any other reason, too. The minister may waive or lower the tariffs for any service at his discretion, and negotiate them with the client if the job happens to be big.
The basic idea would be that people would come in and ask for stuff just as before, but a couple of specific things that they've had the good sense not to ask for so far will now be available at a price, usually paid to the crown account except for things where I'll actually have to do some work. And some annoying things (well, one for now) will also be billed for my benefit :p

If it seems people might like having these services, and the Powers that Be (Ric, Andreas?) approve, I'll document these services in a more structured and understandable way. They'll start getting provided once that's done and once Erik has transaction logging in the bank down properly, so I'll know people are actually paying...
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When this is implemented, the MiniInt is going to be one of the most lucrative positions in Shireroth methinks.

Just behind MiniTrade of course... *coughembezzlementcough* ;)
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Ari - you have my full backing!
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*admits I only read the first half of the fees/tariffs*

So, basically, you're saying that any of the big, flashy stuff, people have to pay money to the crown account, and for small stuff, you get payed from the Crown account. And for some, both.

Sounds good to me.
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Post by Ari Rahikkala »

I wrote that post rather quickly... basically, consider it this way:

- the small and non-flashy stuff, and the stuff I have to do by law anyway, I do for free
- stuff that causes distraction to other people (ads), makes the board heavier or more complex to use (smilies and styles (though the effect will be very minor with either)), or is dangerous to the board (code mods) means the client pays the crown account
- stuff that requires me to actually spend a couple of hours working on something (styles), that I find annoying (finding usernames), or that I will have to carry through every board upgrade in the future (code mods) means the client pays me

(also, another clarification: Modifying the board code won't really be provided as separate services. Rather, people should come to me and ask me to do stuff, and if it's a good idea that said stuff gets done but said stuff requires a board mod, I'll ask them to pay the mod price before I do anything more. For instance, Jonas once asked me to change the Malarbar to have a separate news source for Kildare - that's a perfectly fair thing to ask for, but it would take a code mod, so I'd ask him to pay the price before actually doing it.)

(and no, finding usernames also won't be provided as a separate service. Go ask the Registrar about that :p)
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What???!!! :o
I need to pay to have my own Antyan forum style? :angry

NEVER! Give me admin powers and I will do it myself! :p
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