Lakhesian - Work in progress
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Lakhesian - Work in progress
So. I have always wanted to create a language. This thread is for documenting my work as it progresses. Everything I post here may change at any time, for any reason. So don't take it as authoritative, until I say so.
Sounds
Consonants
I decided I wanted a sound system that is familiar enough to English that you can pronounce it, but not quite the same. These are the consonants so far:
Stops: p, p t kicatives: f, s, s (as in shoot), x (as in German Bach), xnApproximants: w, r, l, l(as the y in year)
Nasals: m, n, n,
Now you might think one of two things. Perhaps what that tiny j is for. It denotes palatalization, which is when you finish a consonant by raising the tongue up to the hard palate, like you're pronouncing a little j or y after the consonant. The other question could be where all the voiced consonants have gone. The simple answer is that I've decided not to have b, d, g, v, z, zh or any of the other voiced consonants, except the nasals and the approximants.
Vowels
Here I went for simplicity.
a, e, i, o, u; pronounced as in Spanish.
a:, e:, i:, o:, u:; same as above, but long. All similar realisations of these sounds are valid, as long as they don't glide over to another vowel.
Syllable structure
Here I also opted for simplicity. the syllable structure is
(C) - V - (C-palatalized)
Stress
Also, simplicity. Gentle stress on the first syllable, similar to Hungarian.
Alphabet
Translitterated
a, e, i, o, u, c(=, h, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v, w, x(=x), y, '. The final letter, the apostrophe, denotes palatalization of the preceeding consonant. Long vowels are marked with an acute accent, like á.
Sounds
Consonants
I decided I wanted a sound system that is familiar enough to English that you can pronounce it, but not quite the same. These are the consonants so far:
Stops: p, p t kicatives: f, s, s (as in shoot), x (as in German Bach), xnApproximants: w, r, l, l(as the y in year)
Nasals: m, n, n,
Now you might think one of two things. Perhaps what that tiny j is for. It denotes palatalization, which is when you finish a consonant by raising the tongue up to the hard palate, like you're pronouncing a little j or y after the consonant. The other question could be where all the voiced consonants have gone. The simple answer is that I've decided not to have b, d, g, v, z, zh or any of the other voiced consonants, except the nasals and the approximants.
Vowels
Here I went for simplicity.
a, e, i, o, u; pronounced as in Spanish.
a:, e:, i:, o:, u:; same as above, but long. All similar realisations of these sounds are valid, as long as they don't glide over to another vowel.
Syllable structure
Here I also opted for simplicity. the syllable structure is
(C) - V - (C-palatalized)
Stress
Also, simplicity. Gentle stress on the first syllable, similar to Hungarian.
Alphabet
Translitterated
a, e, i, o, u, c(=, h, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v, w, x(=x), y, '. The final letter, the apostrophe, denotes palatalization of the preceeding consonant. Long vowels are marked with an acute accent, like á.
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
Fan of SOAD
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Looks good
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OH NO! I HAVE COMPETITION FOR NIFTY LANGUAGE!
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Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
From a distance I'm concerned about the rampant lawyerism manifesting itself in Shireroth currently. A simple Kaiserial slap on the wrist or censure by the community should suffice. - Jacobus Loki
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Can't you see? I'm crazy!
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Mine remains indefatigable.
This looks like a good start, Mikey.
This looks like a good start, Mikey.
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
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It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Thanks for all your kind words. I hope that this will actually be the mother language of the language(s) now spoken in Lakhesis. That will take some more work, but I'm in no hurry. I just need to get over the word creation hurdle. I can call this Proto-Lakhesian for the time being. The Lakhesian as it is spoken now will have English loanwords etc.
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
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Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
This is a really good start. I can't wait to hear it spoken. (You can perhaps introduce it on the news podcast.)
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I'll have to make it and learn it first, but that sounds like an idea.
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Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
It's a damn good idea actually. A fluently spoken conlang in a radio broadcast would blow the microworld away.
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+ Duke and Arx-Piscator of Brookshire
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+ Knight Comrade of the Order of Mischievous Intent
+ MoMA SDI Director
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+ Duke and Arx-Piscator of Brookshire
+ Baron of Vorpmadal
+ Count of Lunaris
+ Knight Comrade of the Order of Mischievous Intent
+ MoMA SDI Director
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Sounds like a great idea. First there are the little issues of making it and learning it, but after that, that's definitely worth air time on EBR.
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
:: Former Baron of Absentia AFAIK, before that Baron of Vorpmadal TBH; also Former Duke of Yardistan IMHO
:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent
It takes moo to mango!
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I will try. I would of course have it written down and just read it out aloud, but as Benkern said, I will have to finish it and then learn it. At least how to pronounce it.
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
At least nobody's going to pick you up on any little mistakes. You're already the world authority on Lakhesian language.
Sir Krasniy Yastreb Ly'Piscator, KcOMI
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+ MoMA SDI Director
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+ Baron of Vorpmadal
+ Count of Lunaris
+ Knight Comrade of the Order of Mischievous Intent
+ MoMA SDI Director
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I should be. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to design the alphabet? I want it to be original, but still feel familiar.
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Like...a new alphabet? Like, not the latin alphabet?
I did that with Tokish and it's soooooooooo hard!
I did that with Tokish and it's soooooooooo hard!
Oroigawa Koreyasu
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Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
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Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Yes, like, not the Latin alphabet. I want it to be familiar, yet not copied. Got any good ideas on how to design the letters so they look good?
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Take a pen and a piece of paper and make random strokes.
I didn't make written tokish that way, though. Written tokish involves compounding single stokes into syllabic letters...it's balls hard. So much harder than the spoken language or the latinized written language.
I didn't make written tokish that way, though. Written tokish involves compounding single stokes into syllabic letters...it's balls hard. So much harder than the spoken language or the latinized written language.
Oroigawa Koreyasu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Count of McCallavre, Straylight
Count of Lesser Attera, Kildare
Count of Asantelian, Brookshire
Chairman, Senate of the Lakes, Hurmu
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I've started making some words now, and Lakhesian looks Slavic-African.
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I eagerly await whatever the hell such a thing as a Slavic-African vocabulary sounds like...
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Maybe we should re-discover Yardistani?
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Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
I'm sure Nick still has records of it.
Re: Lakhesian - Work in progress
Some examples of valid words, they don't mean anything yet:
witë
ngäsas
rírek
ngöec
This is not overuse of umlauts. It denotes palatalization of the preceeding consonant.
witë
ngäsas
rírek
ngöec
This is not overuse of umlauts. It denotes palatalization of the preceeding consonant.
His Grace the Lord Brookshire, LK GMNS
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
Fan of SOAD
Arbiter, Imperial Judex
Duke of Brookshire, Baron of Lakhesis
Knight of the Dragon
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