Emigration: Nathan Shepard

Nathan of Natopia · Post by **Nathan of Natopia** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:54 pm

I wish to emigrate from the Imperial Republic of Shireroth. I renounce my Shirerithian citizenship and my claims to the County of Smorkyr in Elwynn.

Kaiser Ayreon · Post by **Kaiser Ayreon** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Sorry to hear that, Nathan. Would you like to tell us why?

Nathan of Natopia · Post by **Nathan of Natopia** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:57 pm

Well I don't spend any time here, I mean, i have no idea who you even are.

Kaiser Ayreon · Post by **Kaiser Ayreon** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:58 pm

Oh OK. Good luck with your future endeavours.

I'm Ric.

hypatias mom · Post by **hypatias mom** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:10 am

Nathan, I am sorry to see you leave Shireroth. I hope you are happy in your other micronational homes, and please visit us as often as you can.

b3n|<3r|\| · Post by **b3n|<3r|\|** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:15 am

Bye Nate! Have fun everywhere else.

Nathan of Natopia · Post by **Nathan of Natopia** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:31 am

Nathan of Natopia wrote:Well I don't spend any time here, I mean, i have no idea who you even are.

I just noticed how bitchy this sounded

I know who you are Ric, but i meant I had no idea who the current kaiser was

Thanks for the well wishes.

Executive Engineer · Post by **Executive Engineer** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:48 pm

Ric is the current Kaiser

Chrimigules · Post by **Chrimigules** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:30 am

Quick. Tag his ear before he gets away.

Post by **Jonas** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:32 am

Executive Engineer wrote:Ric is the current Kaiser

LIES! It are all lies!

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:46 am

We've been over this - even from the Lokista perspective (Jacobus abdicated in favour of Erik, Erik abdicated in favour of Ric) Ayreon is Kaiser.

Post by **Jonas** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:24 am

The Khan of Vijayanagara wrote:We've been over this - even from the Lokista perspective (Jacobus abdicated in favour of Erik, Erik abdicated in favour of Ric) Ayreon is Kaiser.

LIES!

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:38 am

I take the throne as Kaiser,
I name Ric my Heir.
I abdicate as Kaiser.

The claims are now consolidated.

Have a nice day.

http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... f=1&t=8563

Get over it...

Post by **Jonas** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:48 am

That's manipulated proof. ALL LIES!

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:59 am

A certain amount of duress was involved.

Let's say that I do not contest the fact that the very kind individual sits on the throne and, as head of the current regime, exercises Kaiserial power within Shireroth at the current time.

Further, that I choose not to contest such at this time that the nation might live in peace.

Further, I intend to apply to re-activate my citizenship in a non-micras MN, which will for a time make me ineligible to serve as Kaiser (unlike other that I could mention).

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:06 am

Jacobus speaks the truth but I am starting to worry about Jonas' understanding of the word 'lie'.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:06 pm

I'm just more verbose than jonas. It's my hobby.

http://ingeb.org/songs/bonniech.html

He is simply more pithy, and cuts to the core of the matter.

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:35 pm

It's not a lie though, regardless of the relative injustice - it happened.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:17 am

There are many lies that attain the status of fact. We could get theological about it, but i'm not here.............

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:27 pm

But this is not one of them.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:31 pm

Time will tell and history will judge....

Hesam Jayatar · Post by **Hesam Jayatar** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:37 pm

No Erik will judge. As in he did judge. Thus the reason why this debate is almost as ridiculous as that van dyke The Emperor is wearing in your avatar.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:51 pm

And notice is is a green beard, to show solidarity to Malarbor and his kin.

Erik as Arbiter offered an opinion. Erik as count did the peaceful and popular thing at the time. All well and good.

Courts used to approve of things like slavery when it was "legal". I was speaking about history, the grand sweep of it.

Unless you are discussing Erik as the Founder and Soul of Shireroth, which is a totally different matter, one for the gods to ponder from on high, and far beyond our pettiness.

Hesam Jayatar · Post by **Hesam Jayatar** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:16 pm

Speaking of being abstinent: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... =30&t=8581

Figured Jake would appreciate this considering he actually got my HOO joke. (The second page is more funny)

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:37 pm

Erik as Arbiter offered an opinion. Erik as count did the peaceful and popular thing at the time. All well and good.

Courts used to approve of things like slavery when it was "legal". I was speaking about history, the grand sweep of it.

Yes but whether posterity condemns, condones or even remembers these events does not decract from the 'actuality' of the events that occurred, as summarised in that quoted statement of Erik's.

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:40 pm

Irony!

I'm not sure if I like the Babkhanization process anymore.

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Hey, my rock is a lot bigger than great-great-great grandads, and it has a navy and a limited thermonuclear capability.

Only for research, of course.....

We still have room for more Vryholders if things get too rough over here.....

Post by **Jacobus Loki** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:44 pm

Yes but whether posterity condemns, condones or even remembers these events does not decract from the 'actuality' of the events that occurred, as summarised in that quoted statement of Erik's.

Ah, an event may be "real" but false. Maybe that it the difference in interpretation, the difference between "lie" and "false".

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:01 pm

Again there is no distinction between a lie and a falsehood.

Hesam Jayatar · Post by **Hesam Jayatar** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:12 pm

Not if your statement is false. :P

Aurangzeb Khan · Post by **Aurangzeb Khan** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:17 pm

Point taken but in this instance it is neither a lie nor is it based on an erronious assumption.

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