Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
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Hesam Jayatar
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
Ofcourse you are. You were certain you'd win. And what if the gods don't intervene?
Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
The Charter doesn't grant the Arbiter any power to decide who is and who isn't Kaiser. He furthermore has no power to interpret the Charter, Laws or Decrees. He certainly doesn't have any power over the Kaiser.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
Again. I'm not the Arbiter, go and address your legal concerns to him. He's made a ruling, if you disagree with it, take it up with him.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
If the Gods don't intevene, I trust the Landsraad and the People.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
And if the Landsraad is divided?
Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
There is always a majority. Hopefully.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
I win by erbs, 940 - 755.
Hasan wrote the dumb system.

Hasan wrote the dumb system.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
By virtue of the fact that I have 500 erb in the household account which I did not put into a personal account (because I was Kaiser at the time, and the household account was mine). And then I was assasinated.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
That oh so ominous title returns, even despite Erik's seemingly good hearted attempts to revoke its powers...Kaiser Loki II wrote:And I attempt to respect the Founder.
I think the position of Arbiter - paired with actually doing your job - was a bad way to go if you wanted to stop people thinking like that.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
You could have done it before you were assassinated. It's not like you actually died. BTW, I can't find this voting system in neither the Charter, LawBook or the DecreeBook.
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
It was never adopted. We developed part of it but it was rejected. As for the account, I would have transfered it following my in character assasination, but I thought it would anger people, so Im going to wait for the Arbiter to decide whether it should go anywhere.
Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
But you didn't think going against your word would anger people? 
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
What does that have to do with the bank?
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Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
This wasn't a ruling, or a use of my powers. I simply pointed out a fact, should anyone care what the position of the law was on the matter.
I didn't say who the Kaiser was, just who based solely on law, would be Kaiser. It was more an.... opinion, then a ruling.
Mike is right, I have no power to declare the Kaiser. But I can point out what the law says on the matter, which is my job.
Mike, unfortunately, a lot of Shireroth is based not only on law, but on tradition. So sometimes things aren't explicitly stated in the laws, but based on tradition, will have certain interpretations.
Further, as the first active Arbiter to exist, I'm kinda breaking new ground on what I can and cannot do as Arbiter. In this situation I'm trying to provide legal clarification, not absolute ruling. Note that it's not in the Judex forum.
I didn't say who the Kaiser was, just who based solely on law, would be Kaiser. It was more an.... opinion, then a ruling.
Mike is right, I have no power to declare the Kaiser. But I can point out what the law says on the matter, which is my job.
Mike, unfortunately, a lot of Shireroth is based not only on law, but on tradition. So sometimes things aren't explicitly stated in the laws, but based on tradition, will have certain interpretations.
Further, as the first active Arbiter to exist, I'm kinda breaking new ground on what I can and cannot do as Arbiter. In this situation I'm trying to provide legal clarification, not absolute ruling. Note that it's not in the Judex forum.
Re: Sucession issue: Position of the Imperial Juudex
Thanks for the clarification Erik.
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