Shireroth

What interaction would we need then?

So concensus thus far is "don't interact with non-members"?

Gert Geens wrote:Agreed. Establishing such protocols, however, requires in my view some kind of semi-unanimous consent. In other words: this goes beyond the SC.

Something for another time, another summit then?

Well, yes, but what's the Vienna convention going to do if I decide to cancell a treaty? (Former) partners may be angry and I loose some reputation as a trustworthy partner, but that's it.

I also avoided talking about the EU, because that's a rather pecular situation. So far as the SC is ...

That's actually the way it works irl: treaties are binding for as long as anyone wants them to be so. The establishment of a common jurisdiction won't change that: as soon as your parliament or whatever cancells the treaty, that jurisdiction looses it's power as well.

If you have a look at the ...

Various people I have spoken to about it say that nations like Shireroth have too much influence in the SC. They don't trust their intentions and also believe that they give up parts of their identity in some form or another.

I come from a nation (Flanders) that has rather strong isolationist ...

Jonas wrote:It's better that I respond instead of saying nothing back.

There's no absolute need for a common jurisdiction (here in the form of the SCC) for treaties between nations. Most treaties exist ànd function without providing for common jurisdiction. But if you're going to have one, as is the case here, better do it right.


What's the point in a legally ...

And the admin of Batavia has told me that the MCS-forum can be hacked pretty easily. Then I prefer this forum.

All Forums can be easily hacked, preparing for a hack and recovering from a hack is also just as easy. However I find myself saying the above statement about what others think about the ...

If Victorians / Anticans /... want to participate without becoming member, they don't get their own 'bank part'. Your citizens should register their accounts in Batavia, Shireroth, Gralus or an other member nation. That sounds logical to me.

Well I'm going to go out on a limb here and say That ...

I agree. Treaties are pointless without accountability. Treaties must be taken seriously and are a legal document between parties, there MUST be a common juristiction over them.

I have thought about this for a long time, it might not happen in the SC but I believe that somehow, somewhere the law ...

don't feel it wise to change just because certain nations misunderstand the meaning of it.

Perhaps a better understanding of branding may be of advantage to you Jonas.

I still like the name Small Commonwealth - partly because it it now relatively widely known; but also because I still feel it ...

Has anyone thought about having a Presidency? THIS forum would be the organisations Head Quaters for all time and would hold the archives etc.

Every 6 months the SC appoint a Member State to hold the Presidency of the organisation and for the duration of that time SC business is held on their own ...

I cannot see why we wouldn't. We are already doing a lot of work and have done work for other micronations that would allow us to clear any national debts we would obtain by starting out with a Loan.

But it's in the disadvantage of those who get the money. They will have to pay the loan back ...

I can see why someone wants to become a member (the specific treaties) and why someone isn't interested (don't care about the specific treaties). But can anyone tell me: if you want some of the specific treaties, what's the disadvantage of signing the general treaty?

Various people I have spoken ...

Any mechanism for us to declare a member nation dead has to be put in the general membership treaty. My suggestion would be that the Primate and/or a majority of the Assembly can apply to the Commonwealth Court to have a nation declared dead.

That makes a lot of sense and above all else, it's ...

If I am right in my thinking I believe there is also an overlap with Shireroth and the Victorian Colony of Amokolia in parts of land, working out a shared history there would also be good.

If the SC was able to have uniformed and interlinking data on histories and time zones I believe it would have ...

Would you accept a loan (likely on excellent credit terms) from a SCUE member nation, bank, credit union etc. to have the money to run your internal economy and to be able to participate in the SCUE?

I cannot see why we wouldn't. We are already doing a lot of work and have done work for other ...

I'm here

Now that's team work

Sorry no can do anymore.

England is up for grabs again

This thread almost convinced me to get the passprt out and head south of the border! Shame on you all!!!

United Kingdom

Norge

Victoria has passed a vote 9 to 1 in favour of a treaty with Shireroth and will await further notification on your vote before progressing with the treaty

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28/12/2009
To: Ministry of the Exterior - Shireroth
From: The Department of Foreign Affairs

Treaty Ratification

Having successfully negotiated a treaty between our States, the peoples of the Kingdom of Victoria are currently ...

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20/12/2009
Ref: Foreign Policy Announcement
From: The Department of Foreign Affairs

Victoria release foreign policy

On behalf of Her Majesty's Government It gives me great pleasure to announce the release of our Foreign Policy ...

Appreciate the gesture, but I'm not sure it would save that much work... I checked out the mod and it doesn't seem to require any changes that are incompatible with our forum, and I already collected the Small Commonwealth flags (why would we need anything else? :evil ) off the Forumlist... meaning ...

Shireroth isn't to keen on the idea of allowing a future, independent Amokolia back into the SC a third time. But that is at this time, and does not extend to Victoria whom we would support the admittance of, should they hopefully apply.

One of the reasons we are taking on Amokolia is because of ...

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18/12/2009
Ref: 008/FA
To: The Small Commonwealth
From: The Department of Foreign Affairs

Amokolian Membership of the Small Commonwealth

As of 17th December 2009 a Treaty ...