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Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:59 pm
by Prodigy Almighty
WHEREAS: Greg Russell and I have reached a deal before this explodes;

WHEREAS: I have been a terrible duke of Yardistan, and the Duchy has only suffered under my reign;

THEREFORE: Greg Russell will be Duke of Yardistan, and I will return to my post as Baron of Absentia;

ALSO: Baroness Gilrean Treebane of Absentia has already consented several times to finding a replacement for her;

So it is written!

Signed this day, the last day of my reign as Duke,
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Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:06 pm
by Gman Russell
I confirm this treaty, my forces will cease and desist, and MASS will be re-absorbed into Yardistan.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:24 pm
by Harvey Steffke
I'm glad you worked out a deal that you both find agreeable.

However, if I wanted to be a citizen of Yardistan, there was a lot of time before now to become one. I will not revoke my citizenship from Shireroth, but I do revoke my residence in MASS; as far as I'm concerned, I joined the duchy, and if the duchy doesn't exist, than neither does the place I joined. So I'll be in a residenceless limbo, perhaps indefinately.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:43 pm
by Jess
This is crap.

I was the one who you named as heir, I've been the oldest constantly active citizen of Yardistan and this is ridiculous. So if I rebeled my Barony I'd get the position as duke. Find a solution, or I'm leaving.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:41 pm
by Malliki
Not having the laws in front of me, I think I can safely say that this is very illegal. First of all you can't be made Duke of a second Duchy. Secondly, you can't merge Duchies. I'll give you some time to withdraw this before I declare it illegal.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:46 pm
by Jess
If I became duke of Yardistan and MASS stayed its own duchy, I'd drop the charges against you, Greg.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:48 pm
by Ari Rahikkala
Mike, I see you haven't yet quite mastered the very Shirithian art of ignoring the law whenever it's convenient and only being a git about it when being a git helps you :p. I call ID #103.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:48 pm
by Gilrean Treebane
awww I was kinda liking being Baroness (even though I don't do anything) but Prodigy'll do more with the baron position than I ever will so he can have it. I just better still have a countess position!

Darn this means I'm gonna have to change my Civ III stuff 'cause it's no longer accurate XD

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:51 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
I declare this beneficial to the Imperial Republic, and therefore completely legal.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:04 pm
by Jess
No its not benefitial.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:11 pm
by Malliki
So it is beneficial to the nation that we might lose Jess? Is it also beneficial that you can just rebel a while and get not one Duchy, but even two? I know that I have to submit to you, but I wonder what the law is for if you keep overruling it.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:24 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
It is beneficial because Prodigy let go of a ducal throne he wasn't using, opening Yardistan to a duke who might do something. To whom he gave it is not my concern. Either Jess or Greg would have been better, and it was honestly his choice as the previous Duke to choose who succeeds him.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:29 pm
by Malliki
Practical way to avoid taking any responsibility for the consequences.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:35 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
ENOUGH!

Greg and Prodigy came to this agreement themselves! I legitimized this decree because it was their choice, not mine! Go ask Prodigy in private why he gave the Duchy to Greg instead of slapping me on the wrist every 3 seconds!

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:41 pm
by Gilrean Treebane
you tell 'em babe!

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:57 pm
by Malliki
Enough? I will keep telling you when I think that you're making the wrong decision. If you don't like that, either stop making the wrong decisions or stop being the Kaiser. I of course love being the legal guy getting all the shit all the time. My dream come true. As for this decision... We obviously disagree, but I think you're rationale is crap.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:51 pm
by Gman Russell
Bah.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:57 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Mike Fors wrote:Not having the laws in front of me, I think I can safely say that this is very illegal. First of all you can't be made Duke of a second Duchy. Secondly, you can't merge Duchies. I'll give you some time to withdraw this before I declare it illegal.
I think you misunderstand this (that or I do). I thought one of the conditions of Gman becoming Duke of Yardistan was that MASS became a county again, not a second Duchy. (though if I were he I'd bump it up to Barony status and make each island a separate county, but that's just me)

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:12 pm
by Malliki
1. Greg is Duke of MASS.
2. Greg is made Duke of Yardistan.
3. Greg merges the two.
JFC...

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:47 pm
by Andreas the Wise
I thought it was more "MASS returns to Yardistan, Greg becomes Duke."

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:51 pm
by Malliki
I'm just waiting for Jess to rebel. It's the way to go if you want something apparently.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:56 pm
by Erik Mortis
It's the Yardistani way... Mike.. just let them do what they want internally. Once the Duchies re-merge won't your legal issue resolve?

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:48 am
by Malliki
Doesn't really matter anyway since the Kaiser has already told us what's what. But I get your point.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:14 am
by Scott of Hyperborea
Well, I like Greg and he's been a good Duke of Yardistan before. But I can see how Jess would be really, really upset. Overall, I'd say my opinion is...oh right, the important stuff: Harvey, Cimmeria's yours if you want it.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:18 pm
by Prodigy Almighty
Yeah, see, MASS merges back into Yardistan as a County again, so Greg is only Duke of one Duchy...

Jess, I know you're upset, but it was this or Shireroth (apparently) becomes embroiled in a rather serious civil war. Not once, but twice, I saw remarks of secession from other duchies, and the nation was splitting rather evenly over this matter. However, it hasn't changed that you are the heir to the ducal throne whenever Greg gives up - or, more appropriately, gets bored of :p - the ducal throne.

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:28 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
[quote="Mike Fors&quou2d8evv]Enough? I will keep telling you when I think that you're making the wrong decision. If you don't like that, either stop making the wrong decisions or stop being the Kaiser. I of course love being the legal guy getting all the shit all the time. My dream come true. As for this decision... We obviously disagree, but I think you're rationale is crap.[/quote]

Mikey, if you ever do this to me (again? you might have done it before) and I complain, slap me with a fish and link me to this thread. You are my hero! :love

That said, Long Live Yardistan! I agree with this. I abstain to comment on its legality. I want to see MASS and Yardistan as one, no matter what it takes.

Harv, if you are ever ready, Yardistan will take you.

Prodigy, you were a good Duke for one so inactive. I am still very proud of having chosen you over Jess as my successor, you two being the two main candidates at the time. I hail you as a great Duke who made a painful decision. I personally would not have done this myself, because I am a weaker man than you and I would have caved due to arrogance and pride, leading me to remain on as Duke and lead Yardistan Duchy to utter ruin. Kudos, Dux Emeritus!

Now onto the present. Greg!! I knew this day would come in my lifetime! Not so soon I thought it would come, sure, but here this joyous day is nonetheless. Good luck as Duke. I beg you to lead Yardistan to glory out from the process of being transforming festering cesspit of nothingness like all the other Duchies which I personally instigated as Duke. I am sorry, truly sorry. Welcome back.

Might I humbly advise the Duke to issue a decree granting Prodge the rank of Dux Emeritus in the Order of Mischievous Intent, which he is entitled to (under my law, yours of course may differ and may extend to the abolition of the OMI, which would make me sad). Might I also humbly request that the new Duke help me get Vorpmadal back!!!

GLORY TO YARDISTAN! FOR YARDISTAN! FOR GREG! FOR PONY!! :worship

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:47 pm
by Erik Mortis
A forum... I cannot read... what is this...? *goes to investigate*

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:54 pm
by Erik Mortis
*finishes investigating* Boring...

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:55 pm
by Jess
:rolleyes

Re: Handing over: Ducal Decree #2 (Yeah)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:17 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Scott, are you aware that Cimmeria doesn't show up on any of its parent boards? It took me a very very long time to figure out where it was because of this.