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Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:47 pm
by Nathan of Natopia
Your Niftiness,
I have been authorized by the assembled nobles of the Landsraad to approve the following amendment to the Imperial Charter when you choose to decree the said amendment at your leisure.
It is the desire of the Landsraad, comprised of the Dukes assembled, to recommend to the Kaiser that the following two clauses be stricken from Article IV of the Charter:
Section B: Right to Counsel
No one shall be deprived of counsel of zir choice without restriction in any legal proceeding in Shireroth.
Section C: Equality of Dukes and Duchies
All Dukes and Duchies are equal under the Kaiser. No Duke or Duchy shall be deprived of it's equality without the consent of the Kaiser, the Duke of the Duchy concerned, and the Landsraad.
Should the Kaiser agree to grant this request, the Landsraad hereby orders the Praetor, as an Officer of the Landsraad, to grant approval to the Kaiser to amend the Charter as specified.
If the Kaiser wishes, the Landsraad assents to the notion of placing Section B within the Decreebook or Lawbook, or to place one or both of the clauses into the jurisdiction of the Landsraad to vote upon as two separate bills, and put into the Lawbook or Procedures of the Landsraad, as would apply.
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Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:58 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
If the Arbiter could also post official approval, I shall decree it with haste.
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:33 pm
by Erik Mortis
Considering that the Arbiter was one of the Nobles that voted for it....
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:44 am
by Jonas
I have been authorized by the assembled nobles of the Landsraad to approve the following amendment to the Imperial Charter
Puppet of the Landsraad?
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:13 am
by Malliki
Puppet to the Kaiser?
As Arbiter, I indicate my approval of this amendment.
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:22 am
by Rai Avon-El
Lord Imperial,
For what it's worth, Elwynn stands behind these amendments, but was due to technical details unable to cast its vote.
Steward Avon-El of Elwynn
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:21 am
by Nathan of Natopia
Jonas wrote:I have been authorized by the assembled nobles of the Landsraad to approve the following amendment to the Imperial Charter
Puppet of the Landsraad?
Well the bill itself "orders" the Praeor to approve this amendment. I am a servant of the Landsraad and the Empire... not a puppet.
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:18 am
by Jacobus Loki
Pffft...
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:21 am
by Nathan of Natopia
Jacobus Loki wrote:Pffft...
Oh, well, I never looked at it that way before. Good point.
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:31 pm
by Erik Mortis
Yay!
....umm.. does this mean the Landsraad has to be dismissed now like you originally planned m'lord?
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:52 am
by Jonas
Mike Fors wrote:Puppet to the Kaiser?
In a feudal nation it's better to be a puppet of the kaiser, then of a council of nobles / equals.
Well the bill itself "orders" the Praetor to approve this amendment. I am a servant of the Landsraad and the Empire... not a puppet.
Don't worry. I fully support you as Praetor, Nathan.
Re: Praetorial Approval for Amendment
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:49 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
Erik Mortis wrote:Yay!
....umm.. does this mean the Landsraad has to be dismissed now like you originally planned m'lord?
No, the plan was to dismiss the Landsraad if they decided to leave the charter or didn't get me a proposal in time. They stay open.