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Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:59 pm
by Erik Mortis
Small Treaty of Non-Aggression
1. Any nation who has signed the General Membership Treaty of the Small Commonwealth may sign this treaty at any time, provided they are not currently in a state of open conflict with any current signatory.
2. All signatory nations shall not engage in any hostile or aggressive action toward any other signatory nation.
3. If there is a dispute between signatory nations they will bring it before an agreed upon neutral third party for arbitration. If no third party can be agreed upon the matter shall be arbitrated by the General Assembly.
4. Upon giving notice, any signatory nation may exit this treaty.
5. This treaty may be amended by a 3/4ths majority of signatory nations.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:18 pm
by Nathan of Natopia
Will this forbid friendly recwars amongst commonwealth nations? Or does "hostile" imply we are not talking about a little friendly civil war among friends?
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:25 pm
by Erik Mortis
That's a good question. I don't know. I'm from a time before recwars when wars were real... Should we add stipulations to this treaty for recwars? or make another treaty that acts as a wrapper for some recwar ruleset... etc..
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:42 pm
by Andreas the Wise
*moves from other thread*
I kinda like the idea of the Commonwealth being an important, standard setting, sector uniting YAMO. In that regard, I think a treaty for effectively declaring oneself a "friendly recwar nation" would be good.
Personally, I think of friendly recwar nation as one that can recwar relatively competently, write decent backstory, doesn't push disputes too far, and, most importantly, can maintain at least polite cordiality with other participants even if one is opposed to them. I'd also like to add "doesn't commit war crimes wontonly" but I know some oppose that particular suggestion. Anyway, that sort of treaty would basically say that those nations are willing to recwar eachother for fun and joint story telling and not take the result too seriously OOC. While a mutual support treaty would still have it's place for nations outside such a treaty that attack a commonwealth member (though if we try to get most of Micras involved there won't be many of them), the "friendly recwar" treaty would allow for friendly recwars between members. It could even contain a clause within it saying such nations will not attack eachother in anger - essentially non-agression.
My rambling making much sense?
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:48 pm
by Erik Mortis
Yes. Would you be willing to put forth this treaty(in a new thread) in at least an outline form. Then I can fill in the details if you don't want.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:58 am
by Harvey Steffke
Much like Erik, I'm from a time before recwars and immediately saw this treaty as something not to do with recwars. The term "recwar" comes from "recreational war", after all. They're all in good fun. But there's nothing pleasent about flooding forums with spam cannons, dropping unstable HTML bombs that crash browsers and force computer restarts, and hacking and deleting entire sites. Just because it doesn't happen that often anymore doesn't mean we should ignore the possibilities.
This treaty in principle is both good and necessary. I think the best solution to the recwar issue would be to simply add a line into this one that states that it has nothing to do with recwars at all.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:24 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Unfortunately Harvey, most international recwars these days AREN'T done in fun ...
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:29 pm
by Erik Mortis
And that confuses me...
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:33 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Well, now destroying someone's forum is inappropriate ...
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:14 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
but it would be considerably more awesome...
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:18 pm
by Erik Mortis
And is real war...
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:42 pm
by Andreas the Wise
I've never hated anyone enough to consider it worth doing ....
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:16 pm
by Erik Mortis
Small Treaty of Non-Aggression
1. Any nation who has signed the General Membership Treaty of the Small Commonwealth may sign this treaty at any time, provided they are not currently in a state of open conflict with any current signatory.
2. All signatory nations shall not engage in any hostile or aggressive action toward any other signatory nation.
3. If there is a dispute between signatory nations they will bring it before an agreed upon neutral third party for arbitration. If no third party can be agreed upon the matter shall be arbitrated by the General Assembly.
4. This treaty does not include Recreational Wars that are considered friendly at by the nations involved at the initiation of the recreational war.
5. Upon giving notice, any signatory nation may exit this treaty.
6. This treaty may be amended by a 3/4ths majority of signatory nations.
New Draft. Added a clause to exclude friendly recwars.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:38 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Small Treaty of Non-Aggression
1. Any nation who has signed the General Membership Treaty of the Small Commonwealth may sign this treaty at any time, provided they are not currently in a state of open conflict with any current signatory.
2. All signatory nations shall not engage in any hostile or aggressive action toward any other signatory nation.
3. If there is a dispute between signatory nations they will bring it before an agreed upon neutral third party for arbitration. If no third party can be agreed upon the matter shall be arbitrated by the General Assembly.
4. This treaty does not include Recreational Wars that are considered friendly by the nations involved at the initiation of the recreational war.
5. Upon giving notice, any signatory nation may exit this treaty.
6. This treaty may be amended by a 3/4ths majority of signatory nations.
Removed the word 'at' from number 4. Looked odd.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:47 am
by Erik Mortis
oops.
Re: Small Non-Agression Treaty
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:35 pm
by Erik Mortis
I'm adding this treaty to the list.