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What's the point?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:22 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Dead serious, non-sarcastic question here. What's the point of the Small Commonwealth, at all? I read Ari's "let's make a small commonwealth" topic and the discussion over the the treaty and most of the rest of the topics here, but I still don't get it.
What do nations gain by joining this?
What does Shireroth offer these nations in exchange for submitting some of themselves to the Kaiser's rule?
Is there really a point at all, or are you just totally winging it?
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by Kaiser Reynardine I
Uh...I forget who original proposed it...and I forget their original reasoning...

Re: What's the point?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:06 pm
by Ari Rahikkala
Hey, you're supposed to provide at least a feeble amount of resistance and support for the idea before everyone realises it was silly in the first place.
Anyway, yeah. See all those areas on Micras that used to be Shirithian land? The point is that the nations that now claim those areas have something in common, and might want to formalise this commonality in some way. Also, they might like to learn about the history of those areas, and we could help. Oh, and people are also putting economic pacts and mutual defense and stuff on top of it as optional bits because hey, they're micronationalists, they like writing pacts.
I still hold that the idea isn't pointless, it's just not very significant and not worth making a big fuss about. It's just about a little bit of fun with history, you know. Hence, the small commonwealth.
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:17 pm
by Jacobus Loki
I hate it whe I write five well-crafted paragraphs and they disappear.
Basically, like Ari said.
We are the largest, probably the oldest nation in the sector. We have unique resources that could enrich others beyond our borders.
The level of connection between a member of the commonwealth and Shireroth would be very elastic, never more than is mutually desirable.
With the demise of MNN, and the mutation of ezBoard, there is little common, community-creating space between MNs. It was hoped the the Small (not Grand) Commonwealth could fill some of that void between those interested and willing.
Regards,
Jacobus
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:36 pm
by Harvey Steffke
This is all extremely vague. If I understand correctly, you guys saw the declining number of micronational organizations (they're not really YAMOs if there aren't any left) and wanted to do something about that by making yourselves the center of something new, but you have no clear vision on what this new commonwealth is supposed to acomplish or encourage.
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:22 pm
by Jacobus Loki
If we posted a "clear vision", folks would yell "Shirithian Imperialism". We have hopes the the Commonwealth would decide for itself what it wanted to be.
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:33 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
Jake,
We have hopes the the Whatever would decide for itself what it wanted to be.
is never an argument worth putting forward.

Re: What's the point?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:58 pm
by Jacobus Loki
C'est la vie.
The penalty of having had an idealist as kaiser.
Re: What's the point?
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:31 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
See all those areas on Micras that used to be Shirithian land? The point is that the nations that now claim those areas have something in common, and might want to formalise this commonality in some way.
So essentially, you're excusing not being able to fulfil Shireroth's vast territorial claims all over Micras by bringing smaller nations into your political sphere? A wise move.
