Shireroth

Procedures of Landsraad
3. Voting
A.

1. After a bill has been presented, there is a period of exactly four days (96 hours) during which the members of the Landsraad can vote on it. Each member has one vote with a value outlined below, which he or she may cast in any unambiguous way to represent a vote of aye or nay, on any bill during the voting period. A vote only applies to a bill exactly as it has been presented. At the end of the period, the Praetor counts the votes, announces the result, and if the weighting of the ayes outnumber the weighting of the nays, updates the LawBook with the changes.

2. The weighting of a vote in The Landsraad shall be pegged to the amount of Voting Credits held by each Duchy, such that each Ducal vote cast counts as as many votes as the number of Voting Credits held by the Duchy. Only Dukes have a voting right in the Landsraad, either Aye or Nay.

3. Voting Credits shall be sold by the Ministry of Trade for 100 erb each. The Ministry of Trade shall maintain an up to date list at all times.
a. Voting Credits may be purchased by any citizen for any Duchy, as long as the Duchy is stated at time of purchase.
b. Voting Credits may not be transferred between Duchies.

4. The Ducal voting shall be public, and the amount of Voting Credits in each Duchy shall be tabled at the start of each vote. Only the amount of Voting Credits held at the start of voting may be counted towards that vote.

B.

1. Voting Credits are not terminated at the end of each vote, but may be reused.

2. Upon reaching the Procedures of the Landsraad this system shall be on trial for one month. At the end of that month, the Praetor shall call a vote on whether the system should be revoked. The voting for that vote shall be One Duke, One Vote, so the outcome shall not be skewed in favour of those already benefited by the economy. If that vote passes, this clause shall be removed from the Procedures of the Landsraad and the system continue indefinitely.

3. Each Duchy shall initially start with 1 Voting Credit.

This draft is Andreas' exactly. I suggest that we already now add a clause that terminates the voting credits either after a set number of votes, a set amount of time or at a specific date.

1. As it is now (we basically accumulate voting credits up to infinity)
2. Voting credits are terminated after X number of votes
3. Voting credits are terminated after X number of days
4. Voting credits are terminated at a specific date (maybe the last of each month, once every two weeks or something similar)

1 and 4 are the easiest to administer, since 2 and 3 require the MiniTrade to keep track of when each individual VC was purchased.

So, what are the views of the Dukes on this?

I'm in favor of 4, personally.

One duke one vote is so much easier to implement.

Be that as it may, that is basically what we have now. The difference between 18 000 votes and 21 000 votes isn't really that great. This would also encourage spending, something we really want.

I still prefer 1. The only disadvantage is for new duchies, but when are we going to have those *cough*. But if everyone else is against it, go with 4. It's the easiest for accounting purposes.

Mike Fors wrote:Procedures of Landsraad
3. Voting
A.

1. After a bill has been presented, there is a period of exactly four days (96 hours) during which the members of the Landsraad can vote on it. Each member has one vote with a value outlined below, which he or she may cast in any unambiguous way to represent a vote of aye or nay, on any bill during the voting period. A vote only applies to a bill exactly as it has been presented. At the end of the period, the Praetor counts the votes, announces the result, and if the weighting of the ayes outnumber the weighting of the nays, updates the LawBook with the changes.

2. The weighting of a vote in The Landsraad shall be pegged to the amount of Voting Credits held by each Duchy, such that each Ducal vote cast counts as as many votes as the number of Voting Credits held by the Duchy. Only Dukes have a voting right in the Landsraad, either Aye or Nay.

3. Voting Credits shall be sold by the Ministry of Trade for 100 erb each. The Ministry of Trade shall maintain an up to date list at all times.
a. Voting Credits may be purchased by any citizen for any Duchy, as long as the Duchy is stated at time of purchase.
b. Voting Credits may not be transferred between Duchies.

4. The Ducal voting shall be public, and the amount of Voting Credits in each Duchy shall be tabled at the start of each vote. Only the amount of Voting Credits held at the start of voting may be counted towards that vote.

B.

1. Voting Credits are not terminated at the end of each vote, but may be reused.

2. Voting Credits shall be terminated at the end of each month.

3. Each Duchy shall initially start with 1 Voting Credit, and start again with 1 Voting Credit at the start of each month.

I'd consider something interesting where you keep some credits but lose others (like 'all duchies lose x no. of credits (but can't go below 0) or something) but for now, let's go with the simple, terminate at the end of the month, so you need to buy more for the start of each month. Just so we can get it passed ....

Kildare votes AYE.

Brookshire AYE

Elwynn AYE

Yardistan NAY

Straylight AYE.

This bill passes 4-1.

All future votes will be handled by voting credits now.

Excellent.