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The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:42 pm
by Yvain Wintersong
Your Niftiness, Your Graces, Mr. Praetor, I am honored to be at last able to speak before this august body. May Death spare the Landsraad and its members for many years to come.

I have here a lease transferring land between the Duchies of Brookshire and Yardistan, to which both myself and my Yardistani counterpart have agreed. The Imperial Arbiter tells me it needs the further approval of the Landsraad to become law. Your Graces, I present you with the Treaty of Musica:
In mutual friendship and in concern for the well-being of Shireroth and the flourishing of its many lands, the Duchies of Brookshire and Yardistan declare the following, taking effect either upon 22 Biternionsmoon or upon approval by the Landsraad, whichever is later:

The Duchy of Brookshire agrees to lease the city of Nee, the surrounding countryside, and three nearby small islands to the Duchy of Yardistan for 150 ASC years. For the period of the lease, Yardistan will control its internal affairs, and its inhabitants will acquire Yardistani residency.

The Duchy of Yardistan agrees to lease the County of Musica to Brookshire for 150 ASC years. For the period of the lease, Brookshire will control its internal affairs, and its inhabitants will acquire Brookshirean residency.

At any time after 150 ASC years are over, either party may choose to cancel this treaty. If neither party chooses to do so, this treaty will remain in effect indefinitely. If the treaty is cancelled, the residents of the affected territories will become residents of the Duchy to which their lands revert unless they formally choose to change their place of residence.

The Dukes of Brookshire and Yardistan swear to treat all residents in the affected areas fairly and humanely, and with the respect due to any other area of their territory.

Should any dispute or unexpected complication arise, the Duchy of Brookshire and Duchy of Yardistan agree to put the matter before the Imperial Judex, and to be bound by its decisions.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:42 pm
by Erik Mortis
Change all "citizen" references, to "Resident" and it's legal and I'll..wait... you're my duke.. you should vote on this one.. or do you still want me to vote for Brookshire?

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:01 am
by Yvain Wintersong
I've changed "citizen" tour service as my emissary in the Landsraad. I hereby formally dismiss you in that capacity and will be voting myself on this and future bills.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:58 am
by b3n|<3r|\|
Yardistan votes aye, though I question the fact that the Landsraad is voting on the treaty. The Landsraad should vote in a separate bill about leasing the land, perhaps with the Treaty included in it for reference. AFAIK the Landsraad has no place voting on this treaty itself.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:08 pm
by Erik Mortis
"Treaty" probably isn't the best word for this. But the Landsraad does need to approve the movement of land from one Duchy to another. This is my view as Arbiter.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:20 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
Read the non-Treaty. It's a list of promises and provisions between two Duchies. Where's the Landsraad in all that?

I agree entirely that the Landsraad needs to approve the land moving, I'm just saying the Landsraad voting on this non-Treaty is inappropriate.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:23 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Memorandum? Contract?

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:59 pm
by Kaiser Ayreon
Here's my imperial suggestion.

Landsraad ratifies land lease, and the non-Treaty is changed so it reads like an oath, and the Judex can administer the oath.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:17 am
by Yvain Wintersong
Let's try it like this, then.

The Landsraad hereby ratifies the land lease between the Duchy of Brookshire and the Duchy of Yardistan whose terms are specified in the Treaty of Musica (see above), and directs the Imperial Arbiter to enforce the terms of the treaty as a formal Oath as specified in Lawbook Sect. VII-D.

Brookshire votes AYE (10)

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:44 am
by b3n|<3r|\|
Yardistan votes aye, and is curious about the number 10 in brackets beside the vote of Duke Brookshire.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:24 am
by Erik Mortis
The Judex will recognize the oath.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:46 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
Excellent!

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:13 pm
by Yvain Wintersong
The last set of Landsraad legislation I read said - oh, forget it. I guess people don't do that now?

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:28 pm
by b3n|<3r|\|
These days it's nice and simple - each Duke gets one vote.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:59 pm
by Hesam Jayatar
*Grumbles and shakes fist.

Take that! franchise of suffrage!

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:37 pm
by Andreas the Wise
As Minister for Trade I demand we get the economic bill and voting sorted and passed before Christmas!

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:17 am
by Jonas
As Preator I ignore the demand of the minister of Trade :p

Aye (1903).

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:41 pm
by Oroigawa Koreyasu
Straylight abstains.

Re: The Treaty of Musica

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:07 am
by Jonas
Approved.