Shireroth

I wish to emigrate from the Imperial Republic of Shireroth. I renounce my Shirerithian citizenship and my claims to the County of Smorkyr in Elwynn.

Sorry to hear that, Nathan. Would you like to tell us why?

Well I don't spend any time here, I mean, i have no idea who you even are.

Oh OK. Good luck with your future endeavours.

I'm Ric.

Nathan, I am sorry to see you leave Shireroth. I hope you are happy in your other micronational homes, and please visit us as often as you can.

Bye Nate! Have fun everywhere else.

Nathan of Natopia wrote:Well I don't spend any time here, I mean, i have no idea who you even are.

I just noticed how bitchy this sounded

I know who you are Ric, but i meant I had no idea who the current kaiser was

Thanks for the well wishes.

Ric is the current Kaiser

Quick. Tag his ear before he gets away.

Executive Engineer wrote:Ric is the current Kaiser

LIES! It are all lies!

We've been over this - even from the Lokista perspective (Jacobus abdicated in favour of Erik, Erik abdicated in favour of Ric) Ayreon is Kaiser.

The Khan of Vijayanagara wrote:We've been over this - even from the Lokista perspective (Jacobus abdicated in favour of Erik, Erik abdicated in favour of Ric) Ayreon is Kaiser.

LIES!

I take the throne as Kaiser,
I name Ric my Heir.
I abdicate as Kaiser.

The claims are now consolidated.

Have a nice day.

http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... f=1&t=8563

Get over it...

That's manipulated proof. ALL LIES!

A certain amount of duress was involved.

Let's say that I do not contest the fact that the very kind individual sits on the throne and, as head of the current regime, exercises Kaiserial power within Shireroth at the current time.

Further, that I choose not to contest such at this time that the nation might live in peace.

Further, I intend to apply to re-activate my citizenship in a non-micras MN, which will for a time make me ineligible to serve as Kaiser (unlike other that I could mention).

Jacobus speaks the truth but I am starting to worry about Jonas' understanding of the word 'lie'.

I'm just more verbose than jonas. It's my hobby.

http://ingeb.org/songs/bonniech.html

He is simply more pithy, and cuts to the core of the matter.

It's not a lie though, regardless of the relative injustice - it happened.

There are many lies that attain the status of fact. We could get theological about it, but i'm not here.............

But this is not one of them.

Time will tell and history will judge....

No Erik will judge. As in he did judge. Thus the reason why this debate is almost as ridiculous as that van dyke The Emperor is wearing in your avatar.

And notice is is a green beard, to show solidarity to Malarbor and his kin.

Erik as Arbiter offered an opinion. Erik as count did the peaceful and popular thing at the time. All well and good.

Courts used to approve of things like slavery when it was "legal". I was speaking about history, the grand sweep of it.

Unless you are discussing Erik as the Founder and Soul of Shireroth, which is a totally different matter, one for the gods to ponder from on high, and far beyond our pettiness.

Speaking of being abstinent: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... =30&t=8581

Figured Jake would appreciate this considering he actually got my HOO joke. (The second page is more funny)

Erik as Arbiter offered an opinion. Erik as count did the peaceful and popular thing at the time. All well and good.

Courts used to approve of things like slavery when it was "legal". I was speaking about history, the grand sweep of it.

Yes but whether posterity condemns, condones or even remembers these events does not decract from the 'actuality' of the events that occurred, as summarised in that quoted statement of Erik's.

Irony!

I'm not sure if I like the Babkhanization process anymore.

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Hey, my rock is a lot bigger than great-great-great grandads, and it has a navy and a limited thermonuclear capability.

Only for research, of course.....

We still have room for more Vryholders if things get too rough over here.....

Yes but whether posterity condemns, condones or even remembers these events does not decract from the 'actuality' of the events that occurred, as summarised in that quoted statement of Erik's.

Ah, an event may be "real" but false. Maybe that it the difference in interpretation, the difference between "lie" and "false".

Again there is no distinction between a lie and a falsehood.

Not if your statement is false. :P

Point taken but in this instance it is neither a lie nor is it based on an erronious assumption.