Shireroth

Posted: **Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:20 pm**

Hello Shirithians!

As you may know, we've recently written a new constitution in Antica. The Republic is no more, having been replaced by the Commonwealth (a huge shift, I know; I hope the shock isn't too much to bear.) When I say "recently", I mean about three months ago.

Anyway, we're into our second Speakership, and we've actually elected Aryez and Ben (Oric--do you know Oric?) as dual-Speakers (this required a constitutional amendment.) I realize that I've been a little lax in my duties as temporary foreign minister, and I'm sure you've all missed me terribly.

So, diplomatic relations need to re-established. Do you think a standard treaty-in-a-can would suffice for the moment? I'm reluctant to offer anything more binding, because the situation in Antica is very tenuous right now. We've begun work on yet another constitution, and have yet to establish formal executive departments.

I do feel it's important for Shireroth and Antica to maintain close diplomatic relations. We've had a long and colorful history together, and there's no sense in letting that lapse.

Posted: **Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:21 pm**

For reference, here's their forum. Anticans are awesome people in general, just a little bit more political than us Shirithians and historically a little bit more unlucky with attracting drama llamas. A lot of our common history is chronicled in the MicroWiki articles about Antica.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:47 am**

Bwaha...drama llamas...

Indeed! We are rather cool people, in general.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:50 pm**

Hmm... at least Aryez is in power... but where's Steven?

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:35 pm**

He's not really active anymore, mostly concerned with RL.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:29 pm**

Ugh, it looks like someone stopped updating the Republic of Antica article on the Microwiki somewhere around... Summer 2006. Pitiful. Ah well. The AntiWiki is a much much better source of information on Antica.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:36 pm**

Yes, we're quite proud of our Wiki. Chris and I are, by the way, co-Foreign Ministers, so his word is as good as mine.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:39 pm**

Actually, the appointment is being limited to just you. I already have a job.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:41 pm**

You elected Aryez as Speaker? HAVE YOU THE BRAIN-WORMS????!

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:17 am**

TREATY OF ANTICA (REBORN)

WHEREAS the two countries of the IMPERIAL REPUBLIC OF SHIREROTH and the COMMONWEALTH OF ANTICA, having come into contact with one another and and finding their interests to be coincident, do desire to formalize and secure their cordial feelings, they do agree:

FIRST, that each recognize the other as a sovereign and independent country, possessed of all the rights entailed thereby

SECOND, that both countries commit to resolve all mutual disputes peacefully, using a neutral third party agreed to by both should this prove impossible by normal channels

THIRD, that both countries shall remain open and accessible to tourists and other visitors from one another, barring national emergencies or other such security issues

FOURTH, that both recognize one another as the rightful owner of all territory, real and imaginary, that they claim.

FIFTH, that proper channels of communication shall be opened between them, so as to facilitate dialogue and future cooperation.

SIXTH, Neither party shall engage in, nor actively sponsor, whether directly or indirectly, any act of aggression against the other except for when both parties have agreed by mutual consent that it is the appropriate thing to do.

...good? I was gonna call it the Treaty of Zombie-Antica, but I didn't know how well that would have gone...

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:25 am**

Sixth Article???

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:37 am**

How about calling it the 'Treaty of Antica Revenant'?

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:55 pm**

Jess wrote:Sixth Article???

Did we officially get rid of that? I leave it in there because it makes sense...

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:48 pm**

It sounds boring from a recwar point of view.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:51 pm**

AntiWiki is awesome indeed.

I copied thereto articles on the Jaris War and the War of Modesian Liberation.

Tell me when to stop.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:18 pm**

Oh, you know, whenever you get tired.

I like the treaty a great deal, but if we ever happened to engage in a recwar, not being able to attack one another's territory would be frustrating.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:25 pm**

Oh please... don't stop!

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:27 am**

Braden Indianensis wrote:Oh, you know, whenever you get tired.

I like the treaty a great deal, but if we ever happened to engage in a recwar, not being able to attack one another's territory would be frustrating.

Well, I'm sure if it was a friendly recwar, you could arrange to have that clause temporarily discounted.

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:19 am**

So why should we have it in the first place?

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:13 am**

If it's not a friendly recwar, then they shouldn't invade us. If they really want to, they'll ignore the treaty anyway ...

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:03 am**

Well... at *least* we should do something about the asymmetry, don't you think?

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:22 am**

Shall I add "and visa versa" in there, then?

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:21 am**

SIXTH, Neither party shall engage in, nor actively sponsor, whether directly or indirectly, any act of aggression against the other except for when both parties have agreed by mutual consent that it is the appropriate thing to do.

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:52 am**

And this is why Micronationalism is not like the Real World.

Never in a real treaty will there be a clause saying that two nations agree not to support or engage in acts of aggression against one another EXCEPT when they both agree that it's the right course of action.

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:53 am**

Micronationalism is unlike the real world in so many ways that it really isn't appropriate to start counting them.

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:32 pm**

Yes, I know. My thoughts were turned more to those in Micronationalism who delude themselves into thinking that they are actually running a real state with real territory, and take things way way too seriously, a fault I am glad that Shireroth has never fallen under.

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:55 pm**

Changed. All is good Mr. Foreign Minister Braden Indianensis?

Posted: **Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:59 pm**

It works for me. I'll bring it before the Assembly immediately.

And Ardashir, check your PMs.

Posted: **Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:19 am**

Mind resending? I don't seem to have received any since Monday.

Shireroth

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