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I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:45 am
by benkern
... the movement of this Barony. I understand that its geography location makes no sense etc., but Vorpmadal's place in Yardistan is something special to me. When I first started frequenting Shireroth, one of the few active citizens was a Baron, H4773r 3lfs0n, and this was his Barony. The quirkiness of the Barony I'd always associate with Yaristan, and that is what Yardistan is to me these days. Gone are the glory gays of the YAC (though annexation for the win returns of late), and we all think of Yardistan as something... and Vorpmadal is an important part to me... as it may well be to some citizens who started here around the same time, such as Jonas.
I'm just one guy, I don't have a say in such things - hell, I'm not even a citizen. But unless the geography of this Barony bothers you that much, I'd appreciate if Vorpmadal could return to its ancestral home. Don't make me annex it!

Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:49 am
by Ari Rahikkala
/me nods
I'll leave the decision to Erik, but... how about we tear off the counties and leave them in Brookshire, but move the Barony itself back to Yardistan?
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:50 am
by benkern
That would suit me fine personally.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:01 am
by Kaiser Mors V
If tat is doable.. I'm fine with it.. I'm just trying to restore geographic cohesion, since there is confusion as to what is where, and the old contract system was repealed months if not a whole year ago...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:11 am
by Ari Rahikkala
/me goes to do it
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:14 am
by benkern
/me smiles happily!
Welcome back to Yardistan, Vorpmadal!

Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:54 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Mr. Imperial Majesty Kaiser Sir-
Can we make ben an Honorary Baron, or name a town in the Barony for him or such?
Such love should be rewarded, and commemorated!
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:26 pm
by Ari Rahikkala
Once he becomes a citizen, you'll be able to appoint him yourself...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:40 pm
by Kaiser Mors V
Oh yeah.. he's not a cit...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:32 am
by Andreas the Wise
Come on, let him in, you know he deserves it ...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:27 am
by Ari Rahikkala
I was under the impression that he would soon be under the tri-cit limit anyway...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:42 am
by benkern
I'm working on that, Ari. :P I have many things to do first... places to sort out... loose ends to tie up once and for all!
Jacobus, though I appreciate the idea, I don't think its necessary... I'm already not a real citizen, being a fake Noble would break my little heart.
If residency extends to Baronies however, I should very much like to live in Vorpmadal.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:25 am
by Kaiser Mors V
I can allow that...
Yeah, I thought one of the nation that put you over the tri-cit law was dead?
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:27 am
by benkern
Most likely.
By the way, what is the law regarding citizenships within Shireroth? I recall the Kaiser can only have one citizenship (that is, in Shireroth), but I also remember something about Nobles and Ministers... what restrictions will be applied to me once I'm a citizen?
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:41 pm
by Jacobus Loki
(Awaits the wisdom).
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:02 pm
by Kaiser Mors V
none that I know of anymore...
Just the Kaiser can't be a duel cit...of any kind... I personally would proly never hand off MoMMA or MiniEx to a duel cit for security and conflict of interest reasons.. (recalls the time he was the Istvanistan ambassador to AIN and the AIN ambassador to Istvanistan.. At the same time!)
But officially I don't recall any restrictions that you will officially have to deal with.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:12 pm
by Neike Taika-Tessaro
Kaiser Mors V wrote:(recalls the time he was the Istvanistan ambassador to AIN and the AIN ambassador to Istvanistan.. At the same time!)
*reminded of the time she was "OOC ambassador" in the Splinters of Dusk for Die Nachthexen, and vice versa... also simultaneously; t'is not micronational dealings, but clans in an online MMORPG, so it's not quite so bad

... but the association's there*
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:22 pm
by benkern
Hmm... must've been making crap up. Excellent!
(recalls the time he was the Istvanistan ambassador to AIN and the AIN ambassador to Istvanistan.. At the same time!)
Hehe. I believe Sirithil played the same game...

Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:39 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Hey, I tried to be appointed Ambassador to Cyberia, but cooler heads prevailed.
As for me, I have all of the citizenships I can handle. Being here is kind of a coming home. I could be exiled (more than once) banned ostracized, but knowing that Shireroth WAS, was always a comfort, in an odd sort of way.
Shireroth was always one of the few countries I didn't invade, or subvert (or contemplate subverting or invading, at least--) or something. Either it brings out my goodness, or maybe Malarbor was messing with my mind........
BTW, Minarbor wasn't happy in Ergo Sum, so he's in the back yard of the Ducal residence. No mice, but the Ducal poodles are missing, and I haven't seen page Godfrey lately......
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:52 pm
by Kaiser Mors V
I think he blew himself up...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:24 pm
by Jacobus Loki
No, just a couple of ducks. Sad, but lunch.
Miniarbor has taught him explosives fairly well.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:21 pm
by Kaiser Mors V
Fairly he says.... but not perfectly well...
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:36 pm
by Ari Rahikkala
You should supply him some glue and sandpaper. If there are ducks around, that should make him happy.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:46 am
by Andreas the Wise
Kaiser Mors V wrote:
Just the Kaiser can't be a duel cit...of any kind... I personally would proly never hand off MoMMA or MiniEx to a duel cit for security and conflict of interest reasons..
Wise plan.
Re: I vehemently oppose...
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:54 am
by hypatias mom
I believe the restriction does (or, at least, did) restrict the Steward also to only one citizenship. That would mean that neither the Kaiser nor the Steward could hold double citizenships.