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RE: Democracy is Evil Act
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:06 pm
by Erik Mortis
Umm... WE really should not prohibit subdivisions from having a government form of their choice. While I am fully against Democracy on the Imperial level... it should be a viable option in duchies and baronies...
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:09 pm
by andelarion
You have a point. I'll reword the bill.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:11 pm
by Erik Mortis
I don't they we can... It's to broad. cause it would also dissolve the Landsraad which is a form of Democracy. And thus it will also violate the Charter.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:12 pm
by Erik Mortis
Wait... it would mostly violate the Charter.. one could interpret it as the Landsraad disolving itself in the sense that it is ending it's session, which it is allowed to do.. it just can't abolish itself all together..
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:14 pm
by andelarion
The Landsraad is not a form of democracy - it's aristocracy. Democracy doesn't mean that we ban voting, just the process of voting that involves the population.
If you get what I mean...
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:50 pm
by Gman Russell
Lets make a clause in there that
1. exempts the Landsraad from this act, as it *is* an aristocracy and not a democracy
and two
2. That duchies are allowed to form any government as they please, so long as they submit to Imperial rule.
eh?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:13 pm
by andelarion
Is this better?
X. Democracy
1. General provisions
a) Democracy and all its incarnations are forever banned from the Imperial Governing of Shireroth.
b) Nothing in paragraph A shall be construed to affect the aristocratic system of the Landsraad.
c) Notwithstanding any part of this section, each duchy shall be free to establish its own system of government.
dThe Kaiseress shall have the power to determine what is democracy and what is not.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:15 pm
by Gman Russell
Very nice, and acceptable.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:35 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
This bill is pretty worthless.
We already have a system that isn't democratic. All this does is prevent someone from implementing a democratic system in the future.
But if the Landsraad did implement a democratic system in the future, it would override this bill anyway, being later legislation. And if the Kaiser implemented it, it would override this bill by decree.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:02 am
by Gman Russell
Wow, you are completely missing the point of this bill.
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:02 am
by Hypatia Agnesi
To generate activity in the Landsraad again? To be funny?
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:52 pm
by andelarion
It's about the message it sends.
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:38 am
by Gman Russell
It's about the ducks. THINK OF THE DUCKS MAN! HAVE YOU NO HEART?!?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:45 am
by Chrimigules
Not that I have any legitimate reason to comment on it, but here's a thought: renaming it the Democracy is an Evil Act.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:28 pm
by Gman Russell
Democracy is the root of all evil, so your sugestion is flawed inherently. :P
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:35 pm
by hypatias mom
In Shireroth, at least.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:54 am
by Gman Russell
Nope, in the world. Period.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:32 pm
by Braden Indianensis
*pushes you down a nearby staircase*
What? Oh, yes, Greg...so unfortunate about Greg...I wonder who was behind the ghastly crime of his murder...
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:58 pm
by hypatias mom
I promise we'll get you for this. Somehow, somewhere...
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:09 am
by Gman Russell
*weakly from the bottom of the stairs*
Greg: I'm not dead!
*braden grimaces*
Braden: Yes you are! Shut up and die!
*Ma' looks empathic*
Ma': We can't take him if he isn't dead.
Greg: I'm getting better!
Braden: Oh for the love of...
*walks downstairs and beats Greg over the head with a stick*
Ma': Oh, allright, very well then, carry on.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:01 pm
by andelarion
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:45 pm
by Braden Indianensis
LOL
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:00 pm
by Gman Russell
*is dead, are you happy?!*
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:10 pm
by Braden Indianensis
*descends the staircase and hugs you around the shoulders*
I've never been happy.
*ascends again, leaving you in agony*
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:04 pm
by Erik Mortis
*Revives Greg as a Zombie...*
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:43 am
by Gman Russell
Braaaaains!

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:43 pm
by Braden Indianensis
*blinks*
Crap.
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:09 pm
by Gman Russell
*sucks on Braden's head, frowns*
Baaad jooooke!
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:17 pm
by Braden Indianensis
sucks on Braden's head
*slaps self across face before temptation to make a vulgar joke sets in*
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:05 pm
by andelarion
So should the updates bill be proposed to the Landsraad?