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Some Northhold Business

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:05 am
by Ryan
It occurs to me that Northhold may be somewhat obsolete.

Bjorngard is a tiny county. Comstokia is obsolete. Otherwise we just have Hyperborea and Cimmeria tagged onto the package, in which neither of them is anything happening.

And now that Lac Glacei is up-and-running, it may be pertinent to focus more on that area where there is more promise for development.

So the question is - what to do with Northhold?

John is no longer around. Ophiuchus(sp?) isn't active. I'm fiddling around with Bjorngard in my spare time. Scott is busy with school and obviously can't do anything with Hyperborea.

So should it be incorporated into one of the other duchies, or maybe attached to Lac Glacei and we modify that state's connection to Shireroth? Or what?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:14 am
by Scott of Hyperborea
Why don't you and I become a Barony and merge with Elwynn into a Duchy?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:04 am
by Kaiser Meskan II
Actually, what Scott suggested is a good idea. Would bring back memories of the old Hyperborea-Elwynn relations, no?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:11 am
by andelarion
I like the sound of this.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:18 am
by Braden Indianensis
Excellent.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:27 am
by Sir Ophiuchus
*coughs*

I am in fact active, and have been posting and lurking with reasonable frequency over the last while - there has just been very little to do.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:01 pm
by Ryan
A thousand pardons, Ophiuchus. :fish

Anyways, I like Scott's idea too.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:02 pm
by Kaiser Meskan II
Sir Ophiuchus wrote:*coughs*

I am in fact active, and have been posting and lurking with reasonable frequency over the last while - there has just been very little to do.
Then do something on your own! You don't need to wait for someone to initiate productivity - you can do it yourself.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:22 pm
by Sir Ophiuchus
Well, there has been the whole college-exams thing as well...

I know you're right, my initiative level has just been low recently - as has everyone's, it appears, though that looks like it's changing now.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:33 pm
by Conglacio
Would bring back memories of the old Hyperborea-Elwynn relations, no?
why don't we restart marimacar while we're at it, hey?
:cry

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:17 pm
by Ryan
Been there. Done that.

*cough*Yyldrnis*cough*

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:42 pm
by Kaiser Meskan II
Menelmacar will never be Menelmacar without Soloralism.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:08 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
Ryan, you decide whether you or Ric want to be Duke and I can try drawing up a feudal contract for ratification.

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:33 am
by Conglacio
I was being sarcastic

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:04 pm
by Ryan
Ric can be Duke.

I'm quite content with being Count of Bjorngard, plus I'm already Grand Duke of Lac Glacei. No sense in hogging titles.

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:35 pm
by andelarion
Fair enough :)

What about a name for our united duchy?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:39 pm
by Braden Indianensis
The Duchy of Northhold-Elwynn? It sounds like the name of one of those old German principalities...if you have any descendants, they can take that as the name of their house, and then nobody will know what their real sunames are (just like Victoria & Albert, and 2/3 of the rest of the European royalty)!

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:45 pm
by Kaiser Meskan II
If it was something like that, IMO it should include Hyperborea in the name, rather than Northhold.

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:47 pm
by andelarion
Duchy of Hyperborea and Elwynn?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:51 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
How about just keeping it as Northhold? Northhold was originally just a placeholder name for a union of a lot of cultures (Hyperborea, Bjorngard, Comstokia, etc), and we ARE in the north, and it IS being held. Plus then we wouldn't need to make another banner.

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:53 pm
by andelarion
That's also an idea, but Northhold doesn't sound as good :p

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:57 pm
by andelarion
Alright, let's have it Northold then :-P

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:22 pm
by Ryan
Eluriath - Land Under the Stars in Quenya.

Or... drawing on visions of northerly lights... call it Auroraborea.

And I never liked the name Northhold to begin with. :P

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:53 am
by andelarion
Exactly, Northhold doesn't sound good and by keeping Northhold's name, it would feel as if Elwynn is being annexed to Northhold rather than merged with another barony.

But, Northhold is the most neutral name...

Quitea dilemma

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:03 pm
by Ryan
It still sucketh. :P

What about an Austro-Hungarian type title?

Like The Boreal-Elwynnese Duchy or something?

And we can say Boreal because, in all actuality, the mythical cultures of Bjorngard and Cimmeria are both intertwined with that of Hyperborea.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:58 am
by andelarion
That's cool with me. Nice acronym to, BED.

All we neeed now is a contract *yawn*

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:11 pm
by Ryan
Goodo. Then it's agreed.

SCOTT!!! :document

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:22 pm
by Gman Russell
Sweet!

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:15 am
by andelarion
Scott doesn't seem to be willing to write something up so I took the liberty to draft a contract. It's really short but whatever :-P

CONTRACT

1.
The Barony of Elwynn and the Duchy of Northhold shall henceforth be bound in a union styled the Boreal-Elwynnese Duchy (BED).

2.
Upon passage of this Contract, the baronies of Northhold shall cease to exist, and Northhold itself shall cease to be a duchy and will instead form a barony under Ryan Caruso.

3.
The Duke of BED shall be Ric Lyon (Andelarion).

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:44 pm
by Kaiser Meskan II
Hmm.

Perhaps there should be a sort of "default" contract.