Shireroth

So I'm just taking the old council as mine for now. Who's here?

I am for now.

I completely forgot this place was here, so now I have somewhere I can tell you what I've been waiting for you to get on AIM for.

We may want to try Delphi. We have proof positive that he's involved in some way with Tgaoth and obstructing our investigation, and some evidence that he may actually *be* Tgaoth. A trial may be the only fair way to deal with this. On the other hand, someone (I think Bill) mentioned that he threatened to leave if we accused him of this, so you will have to make a difficult choice.

Whp else would want the Antica's gone but him?

And if he is (part of) Tgaoth, do we really want him in the country?

Yes, but if he is indeed innocent, than we insulted him. And if we don't confict him, and public oppinion is against him, we look bad. It's sad when politics gets into justice.

From everything I've looked at (including tracing back IPs and proxy programs, talking to the Anticans, talking to Delphi, and digging around in the fora), Delphi's the only possibility.

Note that I'm recommending a trial, not an immediate conviction. At which point we can look through the evidence and decide whether he's guilty. If he leaves because we try him, that's too bad, but we can't let that affect our judgment.

Wouldn't leaving due to trial imply guilt anyway?

no. In the same right that not testifying against yourself doesn't imply guilt. But it does raise questions.

I'de proly have the Judex deal with the case, though I do question Reigna's compotence for a Trial of this nature, she was instilled to deal with Law, not criminal cases. So I might have to deal with it personally. Which I don't want to for polic reasons, I'm sad to admit. Just another reason people could use to hate me.

Who is Reigna?

Also, unless the site password has been changed since Delphi was fired as MiniInfo, he still has the site password. I suggest that be fixed BEFORE we put him on trial, just in case he gets very upset.

I changed that last week. Not to worry.

I'm changing the Shireroth account password. Anyone who needs it, get a hold of me.

Nevermind, someone already did it.

As I said, already done.

You changed the site password.. how'd you do that? wait... ugh.. I ask later.. my mind is foggy right now.

*Pokes his head in as well*

I've been wondering about Delphi myself. I knew that the Republic hadn't been able to get a backup, but no one seemed to answer when I asked if the Dinarchy had managed it. Over in Lemuria, Kuralyov (I think that's who it was) seems also to have arrived at the conclusion that Delphi is responsible, and annoyingly paranoid as he seems to be, he did have some good points.

I was hoping to hear that Delphi wasn't involved, but in such a fashion as this do dreams pass...

Do we know for sure how the Antica attacks were carried out? And if so, do we have (or can we get) the means to defend against such an attack on our fora? If Delphi proves to be guilty and he is punished, or if he otherwise decides there's a reason to hold a grudge against us for trying to connect him to this business, we ought to be as ready as possible in the event that he tries something against us.

Thus spake Sander:

Either the attacker guessed the passwords he needed (in which case our only defense is to make our passwords complex and hard to guess)

Or the attacker hacked the passwords he needed somehow (in which case we still should make our passwords complex and hard to guess, but we really just have to hope whatever hacking method he used doesn't work on us)

Or the attacker exploited some flaw in phpBB (in which case we're all doomed)

In any case, our best defense is to have good and frequent backups.

From what I've heard from Foghorn, the phpBB itself was perfectly fine; what happened was that the hacker actually got onto their server and deleted the mySQL directory. In essence, instead of deleting the forum from within, he took the entire forum and dragged it (shell and all) into the trash bin.

*sigh*

I think Sander is aware of that. He would again need to either have guessed the website password, hacked the website password, or have exploited a flaw in phpBB that allows you to manipulate the phpBB directory as a normal phpBB user.

Requesting declassification per Declassification act of 3742.