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Emigration

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:10 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
Im outta here, guys. Have fun trying to crucify me for something I didnt do. But beware, no good ever comes from trusting Delphi.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:15 am
by Delphi
And you still deny it! How fucking amazing... Just to be clear, I'm not calling you Tgaoth, just a double-crossing bastard.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:21 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
I don't dent being the "double crossing bastard" you say I am, but I resent being the scape goat for your illegal spying on other countries. You and Scott are trying to shift the focus of this whole affair to me, and I won't simply sit by and take it. Next time you pick a scapegoat, try picking one that can't fight back.

By the way, do you even realize how many treaties you've violated?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:24 am
by Delphi
Scapegoat? Sounds kinda like what you did in trying to figure out what was going on with Tgaoth and pointing fingers at my sources of information. Which, when you all jumped to the conclusion that I was hacking, essentially confirmed that the information in question was valid. You claim it's outdated, but the intent was still there. Don't try and leave with more dignity than you deserve.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:34 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
I deserve more dignity than you, you backstabbing asshole. As I said to Scott, it's true that I offered to spy for Antica, but we all agreed that it would be a bad idea the very next day.

You really don't get it, do you? Information like that is useless without context, and obviously you forgot to find the context before jumping to conclusions.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:38 am
by Delphi
You considered it. You considered betraying Shireroth. That doesn't need context. Then, when it was discovered, you denied it until it couldn't be denied anymore. Then you tried some hand-waving to shift the focus.

My only crimes have been for the sake of justice. Means to an end.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:45 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
Means that happened to be illegal, Delphi. You just don't understand the basics of being a good person. The only person who is trying to shift the focus of this affair is you and the Shirerithian government, who are trying to pin this on me so you can get away with it.

And I see you've been de-admined, by the way. Finally the government here has seen its error.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:48 am
by Delphi
I did nothing shifty with my administrative powers. And just so you know, I totally don't buy that you're "upgrading" the RoA fora in a totally legit way. What a convenient time, eh? Demonize me all you want, those who are doing the right thing will prevail. Shireroth won't fall at your hands or any other, and nor will I.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:53 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
You're right, for once. Those who ARE fighting on the side of good will prevail. You, unfortunately, have done nothing but maliciously and ruthlessly hack forums, steal passwords, and engage in behavior that most Micronationalists disapprove of.

The update, by the way, is to stop you from hacking our fora again. A micronation should be able to hold conversations without displaying it to the world. You obviously don't respect that.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:56 am
by Delphi
Whatever you say. So long as you plan and plot and scheme, you will be watched, by someone or other.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:00 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
Look who's talking. I'm not the one who hacks forums and steals sensitive information from foreign powers.

That's all I have to say. Rot in hell, Delphi.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:01 am
by Delphi
Two words:

Prove it.

Show me proof I've ever hacked anything. There is none.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:06 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
The burden of proof is on the state. Have you learned nothing from Minchen?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:07 am
by osmose1000
Um, bye?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:09 am
by Delphi
Hey Foghorn, guess what? You're accusing me of hacking. Your state is accusing me of hacking. You've got the burden. Prove it.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:54 am
by Sander
I wish people would stop calling this hacking. It's called "password theft".

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:59 am
by Scott of Hyperborea
First of all, Delphi, shut up.

Second of all, Foghorn, grow up. You wanted to spy on us, you got caught. If you can apologize for it, chances are we'll laugh it off. Heck, we let Ras Charles stay around for six months and even stuck him in MiniEx, and he was an Atteran spy and didn't even apologize for it.

Third of all, Foghorn, we're not scapegoating. Anything you may have done has no relation to anything Delphi may have done, and it's not going to make us any less upset with Delphi. On the other hand, anything Delphi may have done has no relation to anything you may have done, and we're not going to completely excuse you just because he happened to be spying at the same time.

Fourth of all. Microscope. That's me. Not Shireroth. Several people tend to get me and Shireroth confused surprisingly often. Maybe it's because I have that big Shirerithian flag, but it's really mostly for decorative purposes. Yeah, the Microscope mentioned what you did. It also mentioned what Delphi did and what Babkha did, but it focused on the parts that you left out of your article. What can I say? You tried to use the media to destroy the reputation of someone who couldn't fight back, and that person was my friend. It makes me angry and I'm not going to sit around and do nothing. If everyone was to gang up on you that way, I'd do the same for you.

Basically, I like you, and I like Delphi, and I consider you both friends. You understand that Delphi needs to take responsibility for his actions, and I agree. In no way does the discovery of any of your actions change that, and you need not worry that it will. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Taking responsibility for your actions means admitting what you've done was wrong and agreeing to take the consequences rather than running away. I don't know whether Delphi's going to do this. But I do know that you're basically loyal to Shireroth and basically a good person whom I admire, and so I hope and expect you'll reconsider this decision.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:41 am
by Nick Foghorn Leghorn
I've reconsidered after talking with Steven, and if things follow a nice orderly path (without another flame thread from Delphi) you might see me back here again.

On the off chance of that happening, may I request that the Norfolk forum be locked until the situation is resolved one way or the other?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:24 pm
by Conglacio
*pokes head up from under desk*

uh...is it safe yet?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:48 pm
by AngelGuardian93
Maybe. :fish

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:38 pm
by Shyriath
*Looks out from behind a curtain* Whew.

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:11 am
by Sir Ophiuchus
*gets fire extinguisher*

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:45 pm
by Ryan
Wow.... What is it, micronational PMS season or somethin?