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Kaiser Titles of Semisa I and Yarad I

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:01 pm
by Bill3000
Allright. To have some filler, and put our new

Nomination period starts now. People will have the ability to choose titles, and second titles as well. Titles that have been successfully nominated and seconded can be voted on (one title per Kaiser - no priority system here.) Nomination period is bascially in place of the debate period, and listed as usual. It is possible to have more than one Kaiser at a time for a Kaiser Title period, so let's do the two most recent fro now.

I don't have a reccomendation for Yarad at this time, but for Semisa I, I nominate "The Ressurector". Later on, I will list the titles that have been successfully nominated here.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:15 am
by Fax Celestis
Semisa
The Resurrector
The Phoenix-Maiden

Yarad
The Metal

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:27 am
by H4773r 3lfs0n
Fax Celestis wrote:Semisa
The Phoenix-Maiden
didnt know Yarad that well...

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:26 pm
by Sir Ophiuchus
I second "the Resurrector" for Semisa I. It seems very appropriate, considering the "unusual" attempts at a succession. :)

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:01 pm
by Shyriath
I third "The Resurrector" for Semisa. As for Yarad... I dunno, I don't like the sound of 'Yarad the Metal'. There's got to be a word that can capture what "metal" is meant to invoke.

How about Yarad "The Resolute"?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:18 pm
by Bill3000
I second "the Resolute."

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:58 pm
by Kaiser Letifer II
I'm not sure how much I like the Landsraad doing this. If anything this should just be a genearl cultural thing.. and NOT dictated by legislature. And it makes it seem like the Landsraad feels it is above the Kaiser.

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:09 pm
by Bill3000
I don't see how this makes the Landsraad feel that it is above the Kaiser. the last couple of Kaisers did not give themselves (and did not want to) titles, and frankly, it should not be the will of a passing Kaiser to give himself a title - that's not how it works in real life. Given the fact that you can't possibly have a way of having a national way of granting titles the way Shireroth is, and given our feudalistic system, it's better for the Landsraad to give titles than no formal way of producing titles.

Most importantly, it gives the Landsraad something to do when it isn't as productive as it should be. It's better to have the Landsraad do something than nothing at all and die again. Oh, and Shirerothian Common Law sucks, because it's quickly forgotten. It's better to have a written procedure than go through precedent.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:38 pm
by Sir Ophiuchus
I agree with Bill on the "giving the Landsraad something to do" thing.

Cromsfist also votes in favour of the titles "the Resurrector" and "the Resolute" (7).

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:13 pm
by Shyriath
Duchy of Naudia'Diva votes AYE (10).

By the by...
I'm not sure how much I like the Landsraad doing this. If anything this should just be a genearl cultural thing.. and NOT dictated by legislature. And it makes it seem like the Landsraad feels it is above the Kaiser.
I don't think it should be viewed in that sort of light. If the Landsraad were trying to assert itself over the Kaiser, there would be much better ways of doing it; instead, think of this as a form of homage. In granting an appended title in this fashion, the Landsraad is indicating its respect for the past Kaiser's qualities.

Besides which, this is something that can be vetoed or superceded, just like any other act of the Landsraad... even if, against all probability, the Landsraad approved a negative-themed title, the current Kaiser could strike it down.

I would suggest to the members of the Landsraad, though, that if a past Kaiser has a particular request for how zie would like to be remembered, that zir wishes be taken into serious consideration.

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:43 pm
by Bill3000
Because of my own laziness lately, I am extending the voting period of this full nomination period to six days. Once again, I apologize for notifying sooner.

The nomination period was over on the 12th. Vote will now end on the 18th.

Antya votes for Semisa the Resurrector and Yarad the Resolute. (5)

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:11 am
by Hertug Gordon II
Northhold votes Aye (7)

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:02 am
by Bill3000
I'd like to point out that this isn't a YEA/NAY vote, this is voting for particular titles for each Kaiser. :no

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:21 am
by Bill3000
Gah. Is there a legal way to extend this or restart the voting period or something?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:41 pm
by AngelGuardian93
Sure? Hehe

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:20 pm
by H4773r 3lfs0n
Vorpmadal Abstains (5)

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:27 am
by H4773r 3lfs0n
so did this pass or what?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:05 pm
by Sir Ophiuchus
From my reading of this, the titles "the Resurrector" and "the Resolute" were passed.

Bleh

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:06 am
by Bill3000
I'm extremely dissapointed that no on except myself followed the voting format. There is no "YEA/AYE" or "NAY" vote, you're voting for individual titles, and abstains are kind of worthless here, but whatever.

Semisa the Resurrector passes 5-0-5, and Yarad the Resolute passes 5-0-5.