Shireroth

[19:36] markers87: personally, serious micro-nationalism (even my darling land claims) are starting to bore me
[19:36] markers87: after reading Isaac Asimov's foundation, i want to return to not-so-serious micronationalism and build an empire
[19:36] markers87: of all micronations
[19:37] markers87: i have built somewhat of a savvy reputation in these so-called hobbyist nations...and the wheels are in motion for the GC to become something bigger
[19:38] markers87: you'll see some strange incidents occuring in places like antica and shrireroth.
[19:39] markers87: there is no purpose, no end goal, in playing the games with the hobbyists
[19:39] markers87: but heck it sure will be fun
[19:39] markers87: creating this empire i intend to create
[19:40] XXXXX: creating an empire?
[19:40] XXXXX: how exactly does one create an empire
[19:40] XXXXX: and what the heck does it have to do with Shireroth and Antica?
[19:42] markers87: yes, an empire of micronations. it was bound to happen, eh?
[19:42] XXXXX: sounds somewhat impossible if by empire you mean what I think you mean
[19:42] markers87: Shireroth and Antica occupy opposite poles on the micronational sphere
[19:42] XXXXX: what on earth are you talking about?
[19:42] XXXXX: speak sense
[19:43] markers87: ok
[19:44] markers87: I don't know if I can say more, unless you promise not to reveal this information
[19:44] XXXXX: reveal this information? I'm out of the loop, who am I going to reveal it to? lol
[19:45] XXXXX: I promise
[19:45] markers87: shireroth and antica are two not so serious micro-nations
[19:46] XXXXX: I know that much
[19:46] markers87: ok. well, they've had diplomatic displeasantries before, and i think there is sufficient likelihood that they could be agitated into a conflict
[19:47] XXXXX: one should be careful walking such a path, I was once burnt in a similiar attempt
[19:47] markers87: ok
[19:47] markers87: some of the wheels are in motion
[19:47] XXXXX: how does a diplomatic conflict create an empire?
[19:48] markers87: that is but one spoke on the whell
[19:48] XXXXX: again, speak straight
[19:48] markers87: ok. it's late
[19:48] markers87: Babkha is a part of the Grand Commonwealth
[19:48] XXXXX: ok
[19:49] markers87: and in relation to both Shireroth and Antica is a neutral party
[19:49] XXXXX: yea
[19:49] markers87: in the event of a conflict between Shireroth and Antica, I think that the Grand Commonwealth could step in and play the mediating role
[19:49] XXXXX: and this gets you an empire?
[19:50] markers87: not in itself
[19:50] XXXXX: you strike me as a person who would have a slightly more detailed plan
[19:51] markers87: well, here is what may happen tommorrow or next week
[19:51] markers87: the Shah will be offered the seat of Emperor in the new empire
[19:51] markers87: this will happen almost at the same time as i assume control of the Aryez khanate in babkha
[19:51] markers87: and gain a senate seat
[19:52] markers87: Aryeztur will be stepping down from his position as Khan
[19:52] markers87: with the Shah's help, the Babkhan senate will be influenced to give Babkha more control over the GC's functions.
[19:52] markers87: The GC may be renamed something to the tune of Empire
[19:53] markers87: and nations will be invited to join
[19:53] markers87: if these nations refuse, the GC will annex them whether they like it or not
[19:53] XXXXX: so this is how the GC utilizes it's "mediating role" with Shireroth?
[19:53] XXXXX: and Antica?
[19:53] markers87: not just one nation. every nation. every nation that exists in the non-so-serious micronations
[19:53] markers87: that is how things will occur at first
[19:54] XXXXX: a daring plan
[19:54] markers87: before we start forcing nations to join the Empire
[19:54] markers87: what do you mean, daring?
[19:54] XXXXX: you would require a great deal of Babkhan support for this
[19:54] XXXXX: are you sure the Shah is with you?
[19:54] markers87: i am not entirely sure. i have been told by someone close to the shah that the likelihood is greater than 60%
[19:55] XXXXX: is this in anyway tied to recent GC happenings?
[19:55] markers87: which one?
[19:56] XXXXX: The Babkhan Shah running for head of the commonwealth, and changes in the guard among the babkans in the commonwealth parliament
[19:56] markers87: ah yes. those are some of the shah's own manueverings
[19:58] XXXXX: well good luck with your empire building
[19:58] markers87: thank you
[19:58] XXXXX: I still dont know how you intend to force micronations to join the GC if they oppose

Foghorn wrote:Delphi attempted to recruit me as a spy for the Duchy of Antica during the KZFO 36 recording. Steven and Chris overheard the overtures and, through their Anti-Shirerithian biases, jumped to the worst conclusion: that I was a spy for Delphi. In reality, I agreed to attempt to recruit Chris to be a Shirerithian Antican, which I have no intention of doing.

Trough this overture, as well as various other conversations since, I have built up a level of trust with Delphi. While Steven (the paranoid weevil he is) believes that this is proof of my being a Delphic puppet, I ask you to assure him of my intentions and consider giving me permission to persue this option and exploit the trust to gain information from Delphi. There is no current tactical or diplomatic advantage gained, but it couldn't hurt.

And don't let steven's paranoia rub off on you. I'm a Republican first and foremost.

[16:53] markers87: hello
[16:54] markers87: I would like to warn you about Babkha
[16:54] markers87: Don't tell anyone, but I have inside information that they are attempting to create an empire
[16:55] markers87: Lemuria is just a distraction
[16:55] markers87: Lesser Eura belies babkha's true intentions: conquest
[16:55] markers87: Shireroth is a target
[16:55] Fax Celestis: Wonderful

Xon wrote:I just want to say, I'm no longer in communication with the Shah and so can't be held accountable for his further actions. Yes, I admit, I started the situation by handing the Shah what amounted to a Bible for conquest.

Reading the latest comment by someone called "Kwestor" in Shireroth,
and its allusion to a savior-like entity, I have a feeling it is either the Shah or an agent of the Shah. maybe even another nation, even antica, that is working for the Shah.

If you have ever read any of Asimov's foundation novels, you may understand things better when I say I tried applying psychohistory to micronationalism. Like how there were two foundations, I consider Babkha to be one foundation, and Shireroth to be the other.

Shireroth still has time to become an empire itself, just less time than Babkha does. What you may not have realized is that the Jehengir plan could also be applied for Shireroth to create its very own empire. But you better hurry because the Shah appears to be moving fast.

Matthew