Shireroth

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:21 pm**

when talking about the county I live in, "Derbyshire" I pronounces the shire bit as "sha" therefore, "Darbeesha"

what talking about Brookshire or Goldshire, I pronounce is "sheer" or "she-ya" therefore, "Gol'sheya"

but for Shireroth, I pronounce it "shy-ya" therefore, "Shyaroth"

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:24 pm**

There's no "r" sound in any of these...

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:46 pm**

English accents are non-rhotic so they typically don't pronounce r's at the end of words. I guess he forgot that not everyone is English though.

I pronounce it as shy-r or maybe shy-er* in Shireroth and sher* in Brookshire.

*unstressed e

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:04 pm**

Shy-er.. I think the Ancient site had a thing on pronounciation.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:06 pm**

That right there is how I pronounce it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:10 pm**

It... doesn't... matter???

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:11 pm**

It matters!

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:12 pm**

Not really. In the long-term anyway.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:19 pm**

Why doesn't it matter in the long term?

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:35 pm**

Why can't you people use IPA or SAMPA?

I say [SaIr] personally, but I'm, of course, American.

I would expect [Sir] from a lot of British people, but that would depend heavily on where your from.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:50 pm**

Why? Because we'll never agree.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:29 pm**

On its own, I pronounce Shire as "shy-ah", but in names like Wiltshire and Hampshire I say "shuh".

If I was American instead of English the pronunciations would be "shy-err" and "shurr" respectively...

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:56 pm**

If we can't agree, then let's make a committee!

And fine, I shall use English IPA for American English pronunciation

In Shireroth

In Brookshire

n
That should be about it

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:52 am**

Or.. all bow to me.. as I named the nation.. thus... it's pronounced how *I* intended it to be pronounced.. thus.. no commitee.. no debate... end of problem..

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:59 am**

I don't get IPA

and Erik, it's regional accents!

*orders all schlangens to pronounce it my way*

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:24 am**

Erik's way is the only way it should be pronounced [shy'r], even if as a suffix it tends to vary towards 'sheer' in general usage.

But it's 'hire' with an 's', so if you can pronounce 'hire' correctly, then you can just as easily pronounce 'shire' correctly.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:12 am**

while on an official and national level, it should be pronounced however Erik says, like I say, regional accents would have it different....

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:33 pm**

New York accents regularly drop the "r"...

New Yowk, How ya doin'...etc...and Boston Accents are non rhotic, "Pak the ca in havad yad"

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:38 pm**

Sh-igh-er-raw-th

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:00 pm**

I protest, Steven. That's New York City, not Long Island. I still pronounce "r"s perfectly.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:15 pm**

But you Long Islanders still fubar the language. Speak proper New England American!

And I pronounce it the same way they do in Lord of the Rings.

Which, coincidentally, is the same way as Erik does - shy'r.

Now ain't that scary!

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:26 pm**

Uh, "New England" American is used as FUBARed, if not even moreso. If you are talking about a generic American accent, go to the Midwest.

As well, I don't even have much of a Long Island accent.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:49 pm**

I like the real Californian accent...

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:09 pm**

Obviously, since you are from California.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:52 pm**

I'm not sure if it's because I lived for 10 years in CA, but I have tendancy to say "dude" fairly often.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:02 pm**

I say that alot, and i'm not. It must be something in the water.

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:34 pm**

I say 'Shire' like they said it in the Lord of the Rings.

"We're hobbits! Shirelings!"

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:07 pm**

I pronounce it as shy-r or maybe shy-er* in Shireroth and sher* in Brookshire.

As do I. I mean, really, pronouncing "shire" in full at the end of a word?

Posted: **Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:25 pm**

Well, that's me imitating quasi-British-soundingness

Btw, this forum is suddenly doing bizarre things to my window.

Shireroth

how do you pronounce "Shire"?

how do you pronounce "Shire"?