Shireroth

I think I would like to hear what Mattlore has to say about this one. Harvey SteffkeJadie's Lesser HalfSaves the worldProud bearer of the Shirerothian Silver Sword Award and Imperial Star

Califario is a section of Lothlaria that was obtained from Amerada a few months ago under somewhat questionable circumstances. Mattlore says that they were legitimate, and I trust him, but I'm constantly running into people who disagree with this version, and it's definitely getting to be a major sticking point in some relations. The matter was brought up in a discussion on Shirerithian imperialism in Attera and again in a discussion with the Emperor of Ascalon, who rules a very interesting and impressive nation that I have recently been told is looking to us with some diplomatic interest.I suggest we give Califario to Amerada. It's not helping us at all (unless Mattlore is using it for some purposes of his own) and seems to just be a deadweight. I know we have a policy against giving up territory, but Califario, not being on the MCS map, isn't really "territory" in the sense we like to use the word - it's on Micro-Monde, and the quicker we get off of THAT sinking ship, the better. Further, Amerada is pretty dead anyway, so we can cede it to them with a clause that we get it back when Amerada dies, and probably get it back within the week or something. What does everyone say? Lose some deadweight, gain some friends and make my life as foreign minister a whole lot easier? Edited by: Scott Siskind  at: 6/30/03 12:37 am

Dr. Void says sweating removes toxic particles from you skin. Thus, keep Califario and sweat a little more while doing your job. ;)

Well...eitherway I don't mind that much...sure I'd rather keep it but meh. I am actually using the Califario League players in the sim on the Shireroth teams :P but thats not really that important...And Scott does put up a very convincing argument :P *Walks away muttering*

Okay. I'm going to talk to Noseworthy or any other Ameradan I can find and if they want it I'll propose it to the Landsraad.

Shireroth Imperialism.... We are Empire...... I thought we decided not to bother with the Califario claim in the end? In other words... We claim it? Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth

'Fraid sopub9.ezboard.com/fshirero...=120.topicpub9.ezboard.com/fshirero...=129.topic

Fraid' Not. Not that the vote(?) to keep it didn't pass.. or even finish. So we never formally grabbed it.. which is what I suspected.. and it sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth. So... By Imperial...Mood Swing we never claimed it formally, thusly don't claim it now. And that vote shall be officially dead and vetoed and whatever the thingy is called to kill it off like so much brocholy.Fuck. I need sleep. I knew I shouldn't have come back today and slept like was my plan and came.. come... whagtevr back toamrrow. Raynor M'JiliadKaiser of Shireroth