Shireroth

We, the Republic of Aerlig (http://www.aerligforums.tk) would like to seal a long, prosperous diplomatic relation, with your esteemed republic. Please provide me (us) with more details, on how to proceed.Thanking youBest RegardsSubhadip Sen(MoFE, Aerlig)

You're up Stjepan.... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

Please let us know how we can take this treaty forward Edited by: subhadipsen at: 8/1/02 8:28:17 am

Sheesh, Erik. I can't even get to sleep anymore? I'm still acclimating to my new position and am not sure yet if our two states mutually recognize one another. If that is already the case, we can start working on a Treaty of Friendship. If you wish, you may present a draft, or I may write one to present, modify any terms as desired and then sign the final treaty. So I'm moving on... I'll never forget...As you lay there and watched me...Accepting the end...I knew you were scared...You were strong, I was trying...I gave you my hand...I said "It's okay, let it go, time to leave you...And I'll carry on...The best that I can without you here beside me..."...Let him come take you home...

I'll post a list of nations we currently recognize for you... You'll have to keep it up to date though... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

Thank you for your reply. I don't think we recognise each other. We do, now.Please put forward the points you would like to mention in the Treaty of Mutual Friendship. Then, I can create a draft. Be welcome to create one yourself

A treaty similar to the one with the United Baronies found at:pub9.ezboard.com/fshirero...ID=3.topicis a good foundation. You may add anything else you wish to as well. As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come...

Quote: Article 1Both parties recognise each otherÂ’s independence and agree to a pact of non-aggression. They also agree not to aid third parties in aggressive action against the other nation.Article 2Both parties recognise the justice system of the other and agree to the extradition of criminals between the two nations.Article 3Both parties agree to defend each other in case of an attack by a third party and will allow the exchange of weapons and information. Both parties also agree to aid each other in any way possible in case of a crisis.Article 4Both parties agree to respect each others sovereignty and will not interfere in the internal affairs of the other.Article 5Both parties have the right to modify or witdraw from the Treaty, provided the other party is informed.[/qoute]How would

I would prefer Article 1 to be rewritten as:"Both parties recognize each other's sovereign and independent status and mutually disavow any act of aggression against the other, including aid to third parties engaged in aggressive action against the other nation."Article 2 shouldn't be a problem, although I shall consult with my government about the terms of extradition.Regarding Article 3, mutual defence agreements are premature since we've only just begun to develop our relationship. I would rather Article 3 allow for requests of aid during a time of war, but the other nation should not necessarily be required to respond with military support. which would then draw it into a war. Also, agreeing to assist automatically in the event of a crisis could contradict Article 4 where each party agrees to stay out of the other's internal affairs. A rewrite like this would be good:"Either party may request aid from the other party in the event of a war or other crisis. Aid may be of a diplomatic, humanitarian, and/or military nature, but neither party is bound to give such aid and neither party may act on behalf of the other in times of war or crisis without the expressed consent of the government of the other."Also, Article 5 should provide a means for withdrawing from the treaty. Perhaps giving five days advance notice when one party is withdrawing from the terms of the treaty. As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come...

Since there are differences between the Treaties, I would request you to prepare a draft.

I'll do it sometime later tonight As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come...

A Treaty of Mutual Recognition and Friendship between the Imperial Republic of Shireroth and the Republic of Aerlig.Article 1Both parties recognize each other's sovereign and independent status and mutually disavow any act of aggression against the other, including aid to third parties engaged in aggressive action against the other nation.Article 2Both parties recognise the power and legitimacy of the other's justice system and agree to respect the decisions of the other. Article 3Either party may request aid from the other party in the event of a war or other crisis. Aid may be of a diplomatic, humanitarian, and/or military nature, and only given in the event of an aggressive attack by a third party. Neither party may act on behalf of the other in times of war or crisis without the expressed consent of the government of the other.Article 4Both parties agree to respect each others sovereignty and will not interfere in the internal affairs of the other.Article 5Both parties have the right to modify or withdraw from the treaty, provided the other party is informed five days in advance. As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come... Edited by: For Her Light at: 8/3/02 10:40:36 pm

Article 3:In case of a war, aid will be only given if a third party attacks firstOK?

ok, add that to it... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

GREAT! *signs*I am justing wait for youe representative to sign. The Treaty can be signed here:http://www.joachimseitz.de/aerli...#entry1155

*signs*okey doke. off it goes to the Landsraad for final ratification As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come...

nice... We have a system... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

system of what :S?

A system for all this recognition, negotiation and ratification... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

ratified?

Not quite yet. As I gaze into the mirror of Doubt, I see the barrenness of this Life that remains. Yet in Despair we begin to see true light, In weakness we can be strong. Let us draw substance from our shadow...-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Chaocracy of IstvanistanTell me what dreams may come...

Getting there.. Where is the Prætor? Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

When are we getting there???

Soonnn... I think we need to elect a new Prætor.. since ours seems to have vanished... till than.. I'll take care of things... Kaiser of Mors IINow it is time to see how you die. Remember Death is not the end.......But only a transition.End the pain

Thanks a lot