Shireroth

Only the two individuals summoned, myself, and the Kaiseress may speak(post) in this Haring. Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Gryphon the Pure, Duke of Kildare, you are hereby summoned by order of Kaiser to come before this Court.StoneJack0Bar, citizen of Shireroth, you are hereby summoned by order of Kaiser to come before this Court.It has come to our attention that there is brewing, a feirce feud between your two personages. Come forth and Explain yourselves! We will have order in this land. Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

*walks in dressed with usual weapons and armor**kneels*you have summond me my master? YAY!!! we're doooomed!!!!!!

Yes, Now we wait upon Gryphon the Pure to appear.I would like to note, in this hearing you are to address myself, and not each other. This is not a shouting match. I wish to know the source of the disturbance between your two person, and what is to be done about it. You two are more or less on trial for disturbing the peace within Shireroth. Niether of you are charged with anything mind you, but you will be required to explain your actions. Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Erik...Gryphon the Pure has sent me a message requesting the Pheonix the Risen be his represenative in this trial and as his emissary in The Landsraad. I have no problem with this do you? Kaiseress Jadie IThe Elf-Cat Kaiseress of Shireroth

I'll allow it...*waves his hand slightly* Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Only Kaiser 24 hours and you are already high and mighty....But now for Phoenix the Risen to arrive. Kaiseress Jadie IThe Elf-Cat Kaiseress of Shireroth

Good even', my Kaiseress *bows*, and you, my Kaiser *bows head and curtsies*.Thank you both for hearing me.*walks forward, then turns silently to Stone and bows her head respectfully**turns back to the Kaiser and waits for an address* Let's get ready to RoX0Rz!!!

Right, I wish for you two to tell me. What.. STARTED this feud. In your own words. To me. No each other. Why are you pissed at the other.I want the first action that set it off, not all the actions that followed. I'll ask for those later. For now. What is the action that set of you displeasure with the other?Speak.(Kaiseress: Hehe, I try my best...) Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

To Gryphon, the initial spur was Stone accusing him of incompetence in various threads throughout Shireroth.However, before that there was the minor infraction in which he was mistaken for Nick of Yardistan. That was forgiven, as it was only a simple matter of misinformation and/or confusion over the name Gryphon. Let's get ready to RoX0Rz!!!

For me, my lord, was returning to find our land in turmoil, and a throne that i had left to who i beleived to be worthy, had seemingly renouced it's loyalty with shireroth and joined a enimy faction, perhaps that could be forgiveible in time, the lack of intrest in his own land is what spurred me further.there is much more, but you only asked for the very beginning, though i have much more to say.*stays silent and kneeling* Friends help friends move. REAL friends help friends hide the bodies.......and there's ALOT of bodies.....

Right, Well.. I'll allow a rebuttal of what the other said. but address me... Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Gryphon the Pure did not join an enemy faction. If he did, it was only so much as the Baron of the Fields Kitanus did as well. In fact, Gryphon blatantly refused Yardistani occupation of his lands, and they left.As for the lack of interest in his own land, I do not know to what exactly Stone is referring. If it has to do with the Kitanus, Gryphon could do little to counteract their secession, as it was backed by Kaiserial Decree. Phoenix the Risen- Emissary and Counsel to Duke Gryphon the Pure of Kildare - Official Genkher of Gryphon Avocatio's Cool Short Sig! -"To quote a former Kaiser.... 'Shireroth doesn't give up land....'" ~UEC, (In response to claims on the Raynor Isles)"To paraphrase a former Kaiser: 'Here! Take Amity for free! And that other half of Mar Sara too!'" ~SaiKar LumEth, (In response to UEC)"To paraphrase a former angry mob "DOWN WITH THE EVIL LAND-GIVING AWAY KAISER! REVOLT! REBELLION! CIVIL WAR!" ~Scott Siskind, (In response to SaiKar LumEth)

But is it not true, during that rebellion that, you rebelled against the Imperial Crown? Though, yuo did not join the Yardistani, you rebelled as a seperate faction from them?(on a seperate note, not to be continued here, Nick isn't going to be to happy you copied the format of his sig.. and Sak'kar'lum'Eth...whatever.. was never in shireroth, nor did harvey say those things, those were Mog... Scott wasn't Kaiser when he said that quote... and it was Letifer, not UEC who made that statement I don't think...) Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Gryphon did make the mistake of taking the Yardistani's word as truth, and as such he researched the line of succession. He did not rebel, but only pointed out what he believed to be truth at the time. Fortunately, due to act of the gods as well as a clarification on the house Metzler, his suppositions were disproved. He reaffirmed the Kaiseress's legitimacy and whether publicly or not, reversed his beliefs to those that were true.He never did support any enemy faction nor did he take any aggressive action upon the throne. He never instigated rebellion nor did he make any attempts to overthrow or secede from the government of Shireroth.(Oh, and OOC, in reply to your side-note, I suggest you take a look at this thread, as well as the link contained therein. Gryphon actually praised my revival of his old sig, and I believe the link shows you the quotes. They were not in Shireroth but in Delvenus.) Phoenix the Risen- Emissary and Counsel to Duke Gryphon the Pure of Kildare - Official Genkher of Gryphon Avocatio's Cool Short Sig! -"To quote a former Kaiser.... 'Shireroth doesn't give up land....'" ~UEC, (In response to claims on the Raynor Isles)"To paraphrase a former Kaiser: 'Here! Take Amity for free! And that other half of Mar Sara too!'" ~SaiKar LumEth, (In response to UEC)"To paraphrase a former angry mob "DOWN WITH THE EVIL LAND-GIVING AWAY KAISER! REVOLT! REBELLION! CIVIL WAR!" ~Scott Siskind, (In response to SaiKar LumEth)

I see. Stone, Comments?(I stand corrected...) Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

Though gryphon did not attack, he also did not defend, instead tying up the military within his own lands.also his actions led to the loss of katius fields who sought to flee from a trator. His loyalty to the drown was a fickle and weak thing and to easily challenged.As for the never showing any intists in his own lands, aside from topics started agianst him by my own person, or the topic of removing the storm, gryphon only posted in his own duchy a few times in the entire time he was in office. Also, as home of the military, gryphon should at least be IN the military, he is not.I have read in Gman's barony that Gman was disposed for a time, though i am curious as to why, i wish to know what authority strove to remove the moma from his position.It is my belief that gryphon has proven himself unworthy of the honor as duke by his unwillingness to act within his own lands, and he is unworthy of the title even still as he has no power over the military and should not have the power over the lands. I had tried diplomatic means to try to boost his involvement in his own lands. That had failed. I still claim he is NOT A DUKE and the true and worthy DUke of Kildare is none other then the current MOMA!!!!I still wish for the well-being of both kindare and the nation as a whole, and having gryphon in office threatens both. He has proven his loyalty to be fickle at best, and to be completely inept as a duke. I want him gone. I want to kill him too, but thats not as political as it is personal.that is my reasoning behind my actions, I WANT A WORTHY DUKE! I WANT THE MOMA AS MY DUKE!! Friends help friends move. REAL friends help friends hide the bodies.......and there's ALOT of bodies.....

Stone, I'de point at the MoMA and Duke of Kildare are two VERY distinct positions....And do not neccessarily go together... although most military forces/bases are in Kildare... That does not mean the MoMA must be the noble of that area. Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...

May I clarify, Kaiser, that Baron Gman Russel was removed by legal decree of his Duke, at which point Gryphon even offered him refuge and residence in Kildare, as it was seen as fitting to his Military position. He himself decided to remain in Yardistan. Phoenix the Risen- Emissary and Counsel to Duke Gryphon the Pure of Kildare - Official Genkher of Gryphon Avocatio's Cool Short Sig! -"To quote a former Kaiser.... 'Shireroth doesn't give up land....'" ~UEC (Quoting Kaiser Letifer I), In response to claims on the Raynor Isles"To paraphrase a former Kaiser: 'Here! Take Amity for free! And that other half of Mar Sara too!'" ~SaiKar LumEth, (Paraphrasing Kaiser Mog I) In response to UEC"To paraphrase a former angry mob "DOWN WITH THE EVIL LAND-GIVING AWAY KAISER! REVOLT! REBELLION! CIVIL WAR!" ~Scott Siskind, (paraphrasing the Letifer Rebellion group) In response to SaiKar LumEth

actually thanks for clearing that up, i wasn't sure who his duke was, so i wasn't sure, i beleive i had mentioned i knew very little of that situation.and my leige, why should they be seperate? why should there be a middle man between the military leader and the land that his men train on? I think it is a threat to national security to have That Pretender as duke! Friends help friends move. REAL friends help friends hide the bodies.......and there's ALOT of bodies.....

What should be.. isn't the matter. What is.. is the matter. The two job are legally, seperate. If you have an issue with that, take it to the Landsraad when it is back in session, or come to the Kaiser.I think I've heard what I needed. I wasa hoping by having this discussion, I could see a peaceable solution, that would allow you two to reconcile some misunderstanding or such.So, I say this:I am displeased that you two allowed this to go on how and for as long as it did. Your feud was begining to spill over into other places, and affect the general morale of the nation. I heard many a complaint about you two.So I say this. This feud is over. Stone you are to hand over Gryphons wings to the Imperial Government so that the Tecnomaejzi may be contact, and the wings, reattached or regrown. Joseph, although the Kaiseres has already made this order, you are not to lock down your duchy from all, to simply lock out one person. You have the right to exile anyone from your Duchy though. Next time there is a problem like this, simply warn them, than if they continue, inform them that all posts they make within your duchy will be removed. If they persist. Contact the Imperial Government, and action will be taken.Stone, if you had an issue with your duke, you should have talked to him peaceably about it. Nobles are not to be treated like you would treat someone in a bar fight. If you couldn't work something out, you should have brought it to the Landsraad or the Kaiser.I am displeased with both of you. When conflict of this nature arises in this nation, it MUST be brought before the Kaiser or the Landsraad. We will not have civil-discord running rampent in this nation. Order must be maintained...Now, if you still have issues with each other. take it through the proper channels, or take proper, legal action.Due to the fact I wish not to continue this feud, or brew further ill feelings, neither of you will be recieving a formal punishment. But you must formaly and publicly apologize for your actions. My work here is done, Once I have seen your formal apologize, and the wings are handed over, this hearing will be closed. Kaiser Erik of Shireroth.Duke of BrookshireNot dead yet...