Shireroth

It's not Shireroth's duty to gobble up land on the MCS map for the memory of dead nations. Jag har glömt hur pjäserna stod!

Ahem?Look at the Shirerithian map Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

I'd like to set up a memorial territory for Menelmacar. This territory shall be placed directly under the Imperial Government, and this area shall not be placed under any duchy, nor shall anyone move there.The ruins of Menelmacar shall stand untouched as a memory to everything that Menelmacar was, good as bad.I'd like the Caras Menelmacar Region to be placed under this memorial territory, but we know that Antica claims that area since a war with the Red Antilles and that Antica calls that area by New Brannum.If we concluded a treaty with Antica that gave us New Brannum (which we would of course rename to Caras Menelmacar or something), we would give them things in return.The most desirable would be if the nine islands surrounding Jaris, as well as Melangria, would be given to Antica in return.If this is not possible, the territories of Lothlaria would be ceded to Antica. What are your thoughts?

Long live the obscure Antican Colony on top of Caras Menelmacar!

Funny, Kildare was considering annexing the Menelmacari mainland soon anyway... Gryphon the Pure- Shirithian Elder - Dutch of Kildare - Minister of the Interior - High Priest of Apostrophe aka Grammar Fuhrer - Director of the Shirithian Census - Imperial Advisor -q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);

I see a lot of places that we annexed because we rather liked to have their people, not because we felt a sacred duty to protect those lands from new nations that could be placed there (*shudder*). Jag har glömt hur pjäserna stod!

Could you imagine if a super power went "Here I'll give you this island, in return I'll take Rome nobody will be allowed to live there, it's just to preserve that once great nations memory." I say let the pixels be used and reused. You never know another super power may spring from them. No need in just taking up more space on the map.Peace,Adam

I have three words for this proposal: NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN. Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

How's come, WarVoid? Gryphon the Pure- Shirithian Elder - Dutch of Kildare - Minister of the Interior - High Priest of Apostrophe aka Grammar Fuhrer - Director of the Shirithian Census - Imperial Advisor -q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);

You're really gonna ask that question after just putting up such a big fuss over Audentior?!I removed the Apollo Foundation from the map for a reason.I'm removing the Apollo Heritage Centre or whatever the hell it's called for the same reasons.And I am NOT going to go through this shit again! Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

Who knows, the Menelmacarians might want it back.To be true to the Tolkienesque theme of Menelmacar, one should remember the Elves with a poignant sadness, but admit that the time of Man has come, and that all the Elves are happy in the Blessed Lands of the West.

I think I'm going to smack every single person who thinks that Menelmacar was a purely Tolkienesque theme, when it wasn't. It had Soloralism as well; it wasn't unoffically the heir to Jasonia for nothing. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

What are you talking about, WarVoid? I told you about this exact same proposal a couple weeks ago for swapping for Lothloria, and you agreed to it. I just never got around to actually doing this.Ric, lemme smack you for telling this to people without talking to me first. And sorry, but the pixel argument doesn't work. The land has more importance than just mere pixels, especially a nation like Menelmacar. It's a matter of culture as well; the land itself is important. Not including the fact that was just a mockery to have a communist micronation where Menelmacar was, given the entire history of Menelmacar. Land should only be given to nations that would actually make sense for it to be there, not given blindly. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/8/05 15:36

yeah, we know we sort of unceremoniously claimed it. but, to make up for it, we're about to pass a bill allowing a CaST (province-ish-thing) to be set up there and allow multiple citizenships in ONLY that CaST. So you former inhabitants can come back and have a summer house there!

Yes, and it was pointless for you to remove the Apollo Foundation, considering the fact that most people were against you doing it. None of these issues, NONE of these issues, even the issue of MCS bias, would have have happened if you had continued to use the Apollo Foundation as a non-national preserver for small patches of land, none of this would have happened.bill3000.hypermart.net/Sh...orldb2.gif - map I had made a couple weeks ago for this proposal. Not all of the land.I'd also like to point out that you arn't Menelmacar by yourself. Also, if we're getting rid of Lothloria, Menelmacar would have to be part of Kildare. Other than the fact that it makes sense, Kildare can't lose land for nothing, and it would probably be the best as it would then just become a Kildari-only issue.And to prove that WarVoid had agreed to this, here's a part of my log file:Quote:Bill7D0: Looks like I'll have to swap Lothloria for Menelmacar after all.WarVoid: Move Lothlaria? Ye gods no! I suggested that and was nearly castrated. Bill7D0: No, take away Lothloria and replace it for Menelmacar. Bill7D0: It's Kildari land only and thus only our business.WarVoid: O_o WarVoid: you mean rename it? Bill7D0: noWarVoid: trade it like stormark has been doing? Bill7D0: take away the land, and give a land roughly the same size in Feanoria and call it Menelmacar.Bill7D0: Yeah.WarVoid: there'll be hell to pa WarVoid: *pay Bill7D0: (Link: bill3000.hypermartt.net/S...orldb2.gifBill7D0: oopsBill7D0: (Link: bill3000.hypermart.net/Sh...orldb2.gifBill7D0: Is that a good size?WarVoid: seems a wee bit larger Bill7D0: Right. How much should I shrink it?WarVoid: i'd like to shave off the islands. we don't have many left, and i'd like to leave em open for new nations, since a lot of people like to start out on islands Bill7D0: The islands? Sure.Bill7D0: So that's a fair enough claim?WarVoid: yeah Bill7D0: though personally I wish for one time in my life I actually got my way in the MCS. blah.WarVoid: Bill7D0: We wouldn't bug you after that. WarVoid: HAHAHA i've heard that one before Bill7D0: yes, but you never actually agreed, so it never applied WarVoid: agreed? to the trade? I just did agree! Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/8/05 15:53

Quote:I think I'm going to smack every single person who thinks that Menelmacar was a purely Tolkienesque theme, when it wasn't. It had Soloralism as well; it wasn't unoffically the heir to Jasonia for nothing. And a strong "Path of Yellow" presence. In fact at one point Yellowist had more of a religious presence then solarist. I have a few questions.1. Is this Memorial for OAM, The Imperium of Menelmacar, or Both? 2. If this Memorial is for OAM and not both, I remove my objections.3. If this Memorial is for OAM, does the MCS plan on also creating a Memorial for The Imperium of Menelmacar.My objections: I do not believe any nation should have control over the Memorial as that has the potential of becoming a political tool. If someone donates land to the MCS and creates a Memorial that to me is a cool idea, but giving any nation control over that memorial is bad policy IMO.

It looks as if I got some opposition.This memorial would be the Menelmacar Memorial, only that tiny little land where Caras Menelmacar was, and it would be a memorial for everything that Menelmacar was, the good, the bad and the ugly. That is, Adam, for the time when Menelmacar was unified, and after the revolution for both Menelmacars. That would include the fictional histories of Soloralisms (which said Babkhans were dwarfs) and include the works of Yellowism.I am sure that the memorial would not be used for any political reasons. Tymaria City is in Shirerithian hands, but we could make laws here forbidding the exploitation of Menelmacar.

...don't get me started about Yellowism. Menelmacar was meant to be Soloralist, despite its freedom of religion, much like Shireroth is meant to be Cedrist. Yellowism alrerady had a home nation, the CU, while Soloralism was only in Menelmacar.The only possible way that Menelmacar could join us is if Kildare owns it, because there's no chance in PRH that we would get it for not ceding land (actually, very little chance of getting it all after the Audentior stunt the GC pulled), and the only land that no Shirerothian cares about is Lothloria, which is Kildari land.Plus, the only real advantage to us actually having Menelmacar would be reviving the good old times by having citizens join it.And Sirithil probably wouldn't want this unless there is a clause saying that he can take Menelmacar away for refounding again. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

Quote:and the only land that no Shirerothian cares about is Lothloria, which is Kildari land.I'd be willing to bet that Iain might care about it to some degree, though it would be nice to hear from him at least a couple of times a week to to share his opinions, unless he has some really good excuse.That said, I would not object to the land trade, on the condition that we could get at least 1 more citizen in Kildare because of it. If no one is going to move in, no trade, unless the kaiser says so. *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!

Quote:And Sirithil probably wouldn't want this unless there is a clause saying that he can take Menelmacar away for refounding again.This is EXACTLY why i'm not going to let you do this.I agreed to a trade of land like Stormark did. There is nothing there saying I agreed to let you claim Menelmacar itself. A successor state - fine, be my guest. I tried that in Yyldrnis. But did I claim Menelmacar? No. Because if I had, you would've thrown your whiny-ass tantrums again.With you Bill, it's always do as I say, not as I do.

Quote:This is EXACTLY why i'm not going to let you do this.I said "probably", not "definitely". I don't see why this isn't a problem if the founder of the nation agrees to it.Quote:But did I claim Menelmacar? No. Because if I had, you would've thrown your whiny-ass tantrums again.That's because you don't own Menelmacar. You had roughly 50 fucktons of nations already that you founded, and for some reason you have claim over Audentior despite only being in Audentior since the FIoJ-Tapfer-RS-Hyperborea merge (And that wasn't really "Audentior" because most of the Audentes from Apolyton had already left by then.) You don't deserve a claim to Menelmacar, which was the unoffical heir to Jasonia in its early and later on OAM days. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

The latter days of the OAM were nothing more than Mari and Kathryn spamming to eachother stupid nonsense.And this is not about Audentior, so don't change the subject. This is about Menelmacar. I was last acting Elenaran of Archimacar (I hate that name....) and by that I am vested with the same rights as you are. And unless we BOTH consent to it being refounded, it's not gonna happen.We already discussed this and you agreed to it! Now, as usual, you go and do an about-face and try to claim it for yourself!Why don't you leave well enough alone and go refound something else? Oh I don't know. Maybe something you actually founded? Like Demesos or Tapfer? But no, that's not good enough, you've gotta go rain on everybody elses parade just because you can't get your way.My founding "50 fucktons" of nations is none of your damn business, nor does it change anything in regards to my rights. Unlike you, I don't throw a bitchfest and run away when something doesn't go right. Instead, I strike out on a new path in the hopes that someday i'll get it right. It's called perseverance. Something you obviously don't have. What you have is called arrogance.But you know what? That's none of your damn business either. It's my perogative to found new nations if my past efforts fail, not yours. Useless art is simply tolerated vandalism. I am a vandal.

If this has to do with refounding of Menelmacar I am strongly, undeniably against it and THEN some. Leave well enough alone it's dead. Let it rest in peace, PLEASE.If you want to refound a nation Bill, why not Elpidos Epidos (not sure of the spelling) that you seceded from Menelmacar and then did nothing with? I suggest doing something with it, make it a bastion of Solarism, let it shine and show off for everyone what you are capable of. By doing what you are doing here you are only going to cause division and hurt people. It's simply not called for man.Peace,Adam

If more people are against the idea, so be it. I'll rest this case. It was just some ideas for remembering Menelmacar.And Warvoid: Archetype was the second Elenaran/Elentári of Menelmacar, followed by Caesar Augustus. He was replaced by a direct democracy without any Elenarans in Menelmacar through a coup. I think you were Vice Elenaran before the position died Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

Yes, and Menelmacar proved that a pure Direct Democracy doesn't work. Congrats on proving that the Shirerothian system should have been put in Menelmacar from the first day (Or at least have the Elentari be a permanent until resign position) Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

Look, I didn't want to cause any stirr regarding this. I am sorry. People take this really personally. I am sorry for that. Didn't mean any harm.Bill: We are not to discuss all the whys of Menelmacari history. Richard LyonYansha Elaer Kyon gef ShanPernem kahn gef kuymal per varga stiPernem kahn gef varga per kuymal sti

Quote:Pah. See what you've done, Ric? You've caused the rift to come again. This might have worked if Archetype didn't come back, but now the schism is back again. And I'm holding my feelings back, too.Nah... Ric's idea was not a good one, but it's not the cause of the "returning" of the schism. I suggest finding a mirror and having a good look at it. Jag har glömt hur pjäserna stod!

Quote:he latter days of the OAM were nothing more than Mari and Kathryn spamming to eachother stupid nonsense."later on in OAM days", I meant. I don't count the Mari and Kathryn age where it became a Politikan puppet state as OAM, as it simply wasn't. I blame Mari for the fall of OAM just like I blame Archetype for the fall of Menelmacar as a whole (As did most Menelmacari ironically, at least before Archetype came back.)Quote:We already discussed this and you agreed to it! Now, as usual, you go and do an about-face and try to claim it for yourself!That's after you went about face and decided that Menelmacar couldn't join Shireroth, betraying the entire damn purpose I had. There's a difference between Audentior and Menelmacar, because simply put, the ones claiming Audentior had no right, while there is a right here (The former Menelmacari being in Shireroth.)Quote:If this has to do with refounding of Menelmacar I am strongly, undeniably against it and THEN some. Leave well enough alone it's dead. Let it rest in peace, PLEASE.Why? The only reason to keep it dead, traditionally, is so a successor micronation doesn't become a mockery. Well, Menelmacar couldn't have had a more shameful death anyway, and having a new Menelmacar couldn't make things worse than they already were if we got it right.Plus, if Sirithil decides to come back, he's the ultimate one who has the say as to if he refounds Menelmacar or not.Pah. See what you've done, Ric? You've caused the rift to come again. This might have worked if Archetype didn't come back, but now the schism is back again. And I'm holding my feelings back, too. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/10/05 0:04

Day Ten: Bill digs the hatchet back up and stabs Archetype in the back with it. Gryphon the Pure- Shirithian Elder - Dutch of Kildare - Minister of the Interior - High Priest of Apostrophe aka Grammar Fuhrer - Director of the Shirithian Census - Imperial Advisor -q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);q=parseInt(Math.random()*gryphSig.length);q=(isNaN(q))?0:q;document.write(gryphSig[q]);

Considering the opposition to this (And the requirements of Kildare even considering it), perhaps we should declare this issue dead. I regret defending it (though I technically was acting neutral in some sense until WV posted )Personally, when I come to think of Menelmacar, I think I need to think of Menelmacar before the schism (before the whole "I'm the real nation" crap) Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismQuillan Fatebane, 65th Paladin, Lanys Tvy'l Server (EQ1)Quillan Umbarcotumo, 37th Paladin, Innothule Server (EQ2)Proud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="Why do I need some cheese?";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock. - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);Edited by: Bill3000 at: 6/10/05 13:41