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Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:50 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Be it Resolved by the Landsraad of Shireroth:
The Imperial Republic is a micronation, a community and ideally a place for personal enjoyment and growth. With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home. The unabashed insulting of others, their ideas, creations or background is not appropriate behavior, and will not be long tolerated. While disputes happen, and tempers can flare, it is important that individuals remain civil to others, and not engage in harassment tactics or intentional provocation of others. To this extant the Landsraad encourages the Kaiser, heads and governments of Subdivision, and the various moderators, and even general population, to take a dim view of this behavior. It is suggested that when an individual engages in unsavory and disrespectful behavior that they receive a friendly reminder that such behavior will not be tolerated. If such behavior continues a stricter warning be issued, and subtle, but documented, corrective measures be applied to the offensive material. Should a third and final offense be noted, with no sign of sincere remorse, and no extenuating circumstances be noted, the matter should be brought before an appropriate power, and the individual be temporarily curtailed from being able to make any further offensive remarks or action.
I move the above.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:07 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
Aye.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:45 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Aye!
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:34 pm
by Demon of Fides
AYE
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:56 am
by Jonas
This is a very good proposal, which should be the base of a renewed Shireroth.
Aye!
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:16 am
by Demon of Fides
I ask that this bill is not resolved until the conclusion of the discussion in
http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14021.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:12 am
by Jonas
No problem, it seems that a certain sentence has upset (or at least worries) some people. While I know very well that this Statement counts for everyone on the forums, we should perhaps make also very clear that it (of course) also counts for ourselves.
FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.
Just a proposal, which should avoid angry statements from former citizens who think that we're trying to characterise them as the devil.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:15 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Then shall we consider amending the resolution? I have no objection.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:34 pm
by Jonas
Jacobus Loki wrote:Then shall we consider amending the resolution? I have no objection.
Meh, we could do it as a sign of goodwill. It's not like it changes
anything about it.
Aye for amendment!
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:01 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
Aye for Amendment. It's a good idea to keep everyone happy, since that's kinda the goal of this to start with.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:33 pm
by Demon of Fides
Aye for Amendment.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:10 am
by Andreas the Wise
AYE for ammendment, but also happy with Ari's version, and can totally understand his argument that this would work better with clear authority etc. It would be worth passing that too.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:42 am
by Jacobus Loki
Well then, how shall the amended version read?
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:01 pm
by Demon of Fides
Jonas wrote:FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:23 am
by Jonas
Amendment 1 (Jonas):
FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.
Amendment 2 (Ari's proposal):
FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable.
Okay, it seems there are two (err... three) proposals: the original one, amendment 1 OR amendment 2.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:50 am
by Shyriath
Hmm. I'd say Amendment 1...
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:35 am
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
Amendment 2 seems to have more external support. I'd support either 1 or 2. But the original draws to much fire.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:50 am
by Falkner van der Sluijs
Amendment 2, and I am in favor of this resolution as a whole also.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:38 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Either one or two.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:22 am
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
I'm gonna formalize my Vote as Aye on 2.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:11 am
by Jonas
Aye for Amendment 2.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:40 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Aye on Amendment 2
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:22 am
by Demon of Fides
Aye for no.2
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:02 pm
by CJ Miller
ABSTAIN both
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:01 pm
by Shyriath
Aye on 2. (Less flowery language, but it works.)
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:38 am
by Jonas
The Statement with Amendment 2 passed.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:39 am
by Jonas
The Imperial Republic is a micronation, a community and ideally a place for personal enjoyment and growth. With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable. The unabashed insulting of others, their ideas, creations or background is not appropriate behavior, and will not be long tolerated. While disputes happen, and tempers can flare, it is important that individuals remain civil to others, and not engage in harassment tactics or intentional provocation of others. To this extant the Landsraad encourages the Kaiser, heads and governments of Subdivision, and the various moderators, and even general population, to take a dim view of this behavior. It is suggested that when an individual engages in unsavory and disrespectful behavior that they receive a friendly reminder that such behavior will not be tolerated. If such behavior continues a stricter warning be issued, and subtle, but documented, corrective measures be applied to the offensive material. Should a third and final offense be noted, with no sign of sincere remorse, and no extenuating circumstances be noted, the matter should be brought before an appropriate power, and the individual be temporarily curtailed from being able to make any further offensive remarks or action.
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:39 am
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
So now just one question. Where do we put it?
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:41 am
by Jonas
Proclamations of the Kaiser?
Re: Statement of Principal:
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:28 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
I suppose. But do we sticky it. Board announce it. just tuck it into the wiki....