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Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:16 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
Dear Sirs,
The Laqi Free Republic has agreed to attempt negotiations with Shireroth once again;
the relevant thread can be found here.
Regards,
M. Hadjimehmetov
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:22 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
Any thread regarding a seccession attempt on this forum with 209 views and no response is obviously being consciously ignored by the relevant authorities.
I remind the Foreign Ministry that as long as Shireroth continues to ignore attempts by the Laqi Free Republic to come to a mutually acceptable solution to this political stalemate, the Laqi Republic will remain on the MCS map as an independent- albeit disputed- nation.
We in the Provisional Government note the irony of Shirereithan intransigence guaranteeing Laqi independence, and once again renew our offer of diplomatic talks.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:06 am
by Jonas
The Kaiser, nor Steward, isn't around right now and you know very well that Erik takes the case around Elwynn more serious (probably because the claim has been done by some citizens that were actually citizens when the secession was proclaimed).
I'm not a representative, but I don't think we should just ignore this. It seems that the Laqi Independence movement is open for debate and perhaps join the table talks, together with Elwynn. As they are making demands that could be profitable for your Movement, it's perhaps an idea to post your agreement (or other remarks).
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:19 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
Well, actually I was a citizen of Shireroth when the Laqi seccession was proclaimed. I'd become a citizen just a couple of days previously.
Of course talks with Shireroth should commence as soon as possible, but as I stated, both delegations should be treated as the accredited representatives of sovereign nations for the debates, not as rebels versus government. The same standard of behaviour and conduct as has been applied in negotiations with Elwynn should to my mind be applied to Modan-Lach.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:30 am
by Jonas
As I have understood it Erik frequently said that he didn't recognise Elwynn as sovereign. Which doesn't mean that both parties can
treat each other as such.
Just remember that I'm just a minor noble and not a representative.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:54 am
by Jacobus Loki
I think semantics should be ignored so that issues can be discussed.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:06 am
by Harvey Steffke
Well, though I doubt you'll take it, Nelaga offers you the same neutral ground we offered Elwynn if you want a place where no party has any significant strength over the other.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:31 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
Of course, we would be more than happy to start talks in Nelaga.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:26 pm
by Falkner van der Sluijs
Well, as a representative for the imperial government (or however it is right now), I acknowledge the Laqi Republic's interest in seeking diplomatic talks with the Shirithian government. Unfortunately, being tied up in the Elwynn discussions leaves us rather occupied (apparently, I'm not quite sure), however official talks will probably begin shortly, and at latest by the end of the Elwynn discussions.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:47 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:14 pm
by Jacobus Loki
UPDATE-
http://micras.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4325
One down, one to go.
Although I think this can and should be part of the history and culture of the area. Like burning Musica.
Re: Laqi Negotiations
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:37 am
by Jonas
While it's not very important anymore, I want to know if it is Ashkenatza's policy to ignore the treaties they signed with other nations.
http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=277&t=13003
STANDARD TREATY OF NON-AGGRESSION BETWEEN THE REPUBLIC OF ASHKENATZA AND THE IMPERIAL REPUBLIC OF SHIREROTH
Preamble: We, the legislative bodies and powers enacted thereto, hereby convene to ratify this document through our respective Foreign Ministries for
the advancement of peace, prosperity, and goodwill between our nations and between our peoples.
As is hereby outlined in the two articles below, the two signatory nations hereby sign to the following agreements that:
I- The Republic of Ashkenatza and the Imperial Republic of Shireroth hereby agree to respect eachother's possessions and territorial boundaries, be they cybernetic or physical
II- The two signatory nations hereby agree not to engage in any covert or overt military activity against the peoples of government institutions of the other
This agreement, hereby signed into act on 19/11/2008 may be repealed with one week's notice to the other signatory nation at any date by decree of either highest legislative body.
Neither nation signatory to this contract is obliged to provide military or economic assistance to the other, as per the status of this treaty.
While I have said it isn't very important anymore, we should consider this before we are going to sign treaties with the Ashkenatzim. If they violate such a basic treaty, I'm not sure what they would do with others (more important ones) that we could sign in the future. What's a treaty worth in their eyes (this is a question to the representative)?
Don't worry, I don't want to start a witch hunt.